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16. If you don't need to draw upon your savings/investments in retirement, then fine.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:33 PM
Jul 2019

Last edited Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:27 PM - Edit history (3)

Or if you don't need to withdraw more than say 2%/year, that will work out fine too.

At higher levels of drawing down, people in equities/bonds mixes have their accounts last longer than those in treasury bills. According to simulations based on historic data.

On risk - yes, the S&P 500 index dropped 49.1% from peak-to-trough during the dot-com crash, and 56.8% from peak-to-trough during the housing bubble crash. And 48.2% in the 1973-74 crash.

I was mostly in bonds during the dot-com crash (out of fear of Y2K, LOL), so I "missed" that one. But I was maybe 80% in equities during the housing bubble crash, and I wasn't overjoyed watching the nest egg go down by about half. (It eventually recovered and went on to new highs, as I expected it would, but it was scary).

EDITED TO ADD: And 48.2% in the 1973-74 crash.

EDITED TO ADD: One's savings must also cover healthcare expenses in old age -- Fidelity every 2 years does a bi-annual report on how much out-of-pocket spending a 65 year old couple, both covered by Medicare, on average will spend out-of-pocket on healthcare over their lifetime -- the latest is $280,000.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/27/how-to-plan-for-higher-health-care-costs-in-retirement.html

And that doesn't include long-term care (assisted living facilities, nursing homes, etc.). Nor does it include most dental, vision, or hearing. Nor over-the-counter medications.

So one must be cognizant that if one can live on Social Security and their pension early in retirement, that might not be the case when the health starts to go seriously downhill.

EDITED: added the link to the Fidelity article, and it's $280,000, not $250,000. And it comes out every 2 years, not every year

The millenials customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #1
And of course you've lost out completely PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #2
I probably would have lost customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #3
"but never makes new lows. At least not since 1933." progree Jul 2019 #4
Ahhh, thank you. I had only ever looked at the Dow since the 1920s or so. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #6
S&P 500 has made 218 all-time highs since 2013 progree Jul 2019 #5
Thank you for that. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #7
Sounds like anybody getting in now customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #9
Nobody thinks it's a "sure thing" who knows anything about it. progree Jul 2019 #10
Anybody who had a hundred dollars customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #11
I survived the 1987 crash, the dotcomm and the housing bubble crash, and after each crash, the stock progree Jul 2019 #12
Well, the dot-bomb customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #13
Had you kept the money invested, you would be doing quite well progree Jul 2019 #14
Like I also think I said customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #15
If you don't need to draw upon your savings/investments in retirement, then fine. progree Jul 2019 #16
My plan is to withdraw customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #17
Do you have to take required minimum distributions (RMD's) on your IRA progree Jul 2019 #18
Not yet, will be 64 later this year customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #19
The Roth IRA makes sense in any tax bracket progree Jul 2019 #20
+1 CountAllVotes Jul 2019 #8
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