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18. Update: I just tried Fidelity IRA RMD withdrawal via direct transfer of shares to a regular
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:34 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sun Mar 15, 2020, 04:12 AM - Edit history (2)

taxable Fidelity account, and it doesn't seem to allow it. I tried twice about 4 hours apart, and both times I got " (MMMH2000) Your transaction cannot be processed at this time. Please try again later, or call a Fidelity Representative at 800-544-6666." )"

I edited #15 and #17 above for this unfortunate discovery. So apparently if someone wants to do this, they would have to call.

I suppose what might have happened in the past is that say Joe needs to do a $8,200 IRA RMD withdrawal/distribution from an account that has fund XYZ in it. XYZ is currently at $41/share, so he specifies transferring 200 shares ($41 X 200 = $8,200) from the IRA to his regular taxable account.

Unfortunately, as usual, Fidelity doesn't do the transfer until after market close, and the new NAV for the fund determined. The new NAV is $39, so 200 shares worth $7,800 get transferred, and that's what's reported to the IRS -- a $7,800 withdrawal/distribution.

Guess who pays a 50% penalty on the $400 difference that should have been distributed but wasn't? Answer Joe. Guess who Joe goes screaming at? The IRS? Maybe. Fidelity? For sure.

So I guess that is why Fidelity isn't allowing this.

BTW I tried doing the same thing at Vanguard and it seemed to be working and like it would do it, but I didn't do the final "Submit" thing because I don't want to actually withdraw from my Vanguard IRA.

I have done Roth conversions at Vanguard via direct transfer of shares (from the Traditional IRA account to the Roth IRA account) many many many times without issue over the past 20+ years.

Sounds like a good idea, but I'm not a trader, elleng Mar 2020 #1
And that is fair enough.... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2020 #2
I agree, but won't have 'spare dollars' for a month or so; elleng Mar 2020 #4
A month from now (or two months from now) lastlib Mar 2020 #11
I think so too. elleng Mar 2020 #12
Yes, for those who have some spare cash, this is a good time to start buying. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #3
Sorry, but things have changed in the past few days. question everything Mar 2020 #14
yep. I'm considering dollar cost averaging my way back in. Pobeka Mar 2020 #5
Loud and clear!! Kilgore Mar 2020 #6
My "circuit breaker" got triggered today. With S&P 500 closing down 25% from all-time high. progree Mar 2020 #7
Perhaps the Consumer Cyclicals. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2020 #8
Thanks! I'm surprised it didn't pass through my mind, considering I had "cycles" in mind! but yeah progree Mar 2020 #9
As Rothchild said "the time to buy is when there is blood in the streets" nt mitch96 Mar 2020 #10
COSTCO, Procter and Gamble (the makers of Charmin TP) question everything Mar 2020 #13
One does not have to sell equities in order to make IRA withdrawals (RMD's or otherwise) progree Mar 2020 #15
Are both the IRA and the taxable account held by the same firm? question everything Mar 2020 #16
In my case, yes, for the IRA RMDs (Fidelity) and Roth conversions (Vanguard) progree Mar 2020 #17
Update: I just tried Fidelity IRA RMD withdrawal via direct transfer of shares to a regular progree Mar 2020 #18
Well, will take my time. Obviously will have to do it by phone so will wait. question everything Mar 2020 #19
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