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A HERETIC I AM

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16. Keep an eye on the 10 Year Treasury yield.
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 01:00 AM
Sep 2021

Last edited Thu Sep 30, 2021, 12:44 AM - Edit history (1)

It's risen about 20 Basis Points over the last week, but it is merely climbing back to where it was in June (~1.50 % )

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5ETNX?p=%5ETNX


A serious spike in yield (a percent or more in a days trading) could indicate a serious selloff, and THAT would be bad news. If confidence in the integrity of Treasury Bonds begins to wane, holders will look to unload them, forcing prices down and yields up.

However, it is important to remember just how low yields are right now. That ten year paper is paying a coupon rate of 1.25% and is currently bid at a discount to par.

A true default would mean either interest payments are not made, or maturing securities are not redeemed on time or in full - or at all (ed. Or both) .

The worst case scenario would be failed auctions. The New York Branch of the Federal Reserve conducts the bond auctions for the Treasury, and if a given series (or several offerings, for that matter) of any paper are seriously undersubscribed, it means the pool of buyers is drying up, and they wont come back till yields go up enough to satisfy perceived risk. If interest payments are not made or a series is not redeemed on time, it is anyone's guess what the rate would be that would bring buyers back.

Keep in mind that during the Reagan years, the yield on the 30 year topped 12% ! Right now that bond is at 2.07% with a 2% coupon.

For perspective, 2% on a million dollars face value of these securities equals $20,000 a year in interest payments to the holder. It's peanuts.

It has caused a 50% drop in my small brokerage account over the past few days. jmbar2 Sep 2021 #1
Yes, just the last 2 days is bad enough but I suspect the next few weeks to be brutal. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2021 #4
The turtle couldn't be happier. He said he took no responsibility for what would happen Walleye Sep 2021 #2
The question is how much are his billionaire owners willing to suffer Eliot Rosewater Sep 2021 #5
I have a sneaky suspicion.... TheRealNorth Sep 2021 #13
Turtle is a psychopath I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2021 #9
Republican Dine and Dash aka GOP Chew and Screw C_U_L8R Sep 2021 #10
I think it's something like Theft of services, a crime Walleye Sep 2021 #12
I understand. My pension fund has dropped 10k in ONE DAY. Doodley Sep 2021 #3
I have to consider pulling it all out for a few weeks. Broker can put it in a simple Eliot Rosewater Sep 2021 #6
That's the whole point, isn't it? wnylib Sep 2021 #7
Of course it is. The GOP is a terrorist organization and they can crash the market Eliot Rosewater Sep 2021 #8
"Has the debt ceiling ever not been raised?" - There was a brief debt default in 1979... PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #11
Article doesnt say what happened to the market when this happened. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2021 #19
The GQP knows we will use reconciliation to get it done at the last moment. They know we will fold.. krawhitham Sep 2021 #14
And if they are being controlled by Koch and the like, they might do exactly that. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2021 #18
It'll be a good time to buy. multigraincracker Sep 2021 #15
Keep an eye on the 10 Year Treasury yield. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2021 #16
Thanks, I wish I understood this. Do me a favor, tell me WHERE to look and exactly what Eliot Rosewater Sep 2021 #17
Any quote platform or website will have that quote. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2021 #20
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Eliot Rosewater Sep 2021 #21
It's all noise until somebody calls in their Treasury bonds and doesn't get paid bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #22
Thanks Eliot Rosewater Oct 2021 #23
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