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In reply to the discussion: Roth IRA conversion tax reporting. I am so confused! [View all]nmmi
(248 posts)34. And then there is the NOT-simple matter about how much estimated tax to pay
if you don't pay enough tax either through withholding at the time of the conversion (similarly in the future when you take RMDs), and/or don't pay enough estimated taxes, you will owe a penalty and interest for underpaying estimated taxes. It's not punitively high, in didn't ruin my day when it happened to me, but it's a thing.
There are safe harbor provisions that make it easier. For most people:
1. If you pay in the same amount of taxes this year (deadline Jan 15, 2025) (I'm assuming you do a conversion this year) as you paid last year, you won't be charged an underestimation penalty or interest on the underpayment. If you used 1040-SR (for seniors) when you filed 2023 taxes, the amount you paid in 2023 is line 24. "Add lines 22 and 23. This is your total tax".
2. Ditto If you pay 90% or more of the taxes for the year than what your actual tax amount turns out to be, you are OK
3. Ditto if you end up owing less than $1,000 in taxes, you are OK
Google:
what is the safe harbor tax rule
And one has to do all this for state income taxes too, which may have different safe harbor rules / thresholds
as long as y'all didn't mind replying
Speaking for myself, I'm happy to do it. It's payback for all who have helped me with all kinds of issues in the past
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Capital gains is a non-issue with IRAs. One is taxed on the value of the IRA at the time of withdrawal or conversion
nmmi
Nov 29
#15
You're welcome. And I am so relieved you are considering doing small conversion amounts at a time
nmmi
Nov 29
#18
You should get your November monthly statement from whoever runs your IRA in a few days.
mahatmakanejeeves
Nov 29
#7
You don't have to wait to Jan 15. We pay the last estimated around the middle of December
question everything
Nov 29
#14
I don't know your age. But I converted part of my IRA to a Roth at 64 one year before
doc03
Nov 29
#9
Are both the traditional and Roth with the same custodian? No forms are needed
question everything
Nov 29
#13
Also, depending on the amount you may be subjected to Alternative Minimum tax.
question everything
Nov 29
#20
Interesting - 20 years is my base case default assumption on longevity in my spreadsheet
nmmi
Nov 29
#24
Absolutely. One advice that I keep reading consistently, is to never pay taxes from an IRA account, always pay the
nmmi
Nov 29
#30