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Scootaloo

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31. What does not voting accomplish, then?

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:24 AM

Sep 2012

Contrary to what the wastes of meat that have been stumbling around in Birkenstocks since 1964 think, not voting does not "send a message," it just removes your voice from whatever's going on. It's less than non-productive, it's actively counter-productive.

Vote third party if you really gotta. Better yet, run for office yourself. But "don't vote" is about the most useless sentiment that could possibly be conjured in a democracy.

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A Teacher at Central Falls HS Will Not Vote for Obama [View all] HiPointDem Sep 2012 OP

I wonder how this teacher ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #1

As things stand, all roads lead to the same destination. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #2

You really think so ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #6

I know that this administration is taking steps that are leading to that end. And I know that this HiPointDem Sep 2012 #7

okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #8

It doesn't take *any* courage to pick on the weak Confusious Sep 2012 #28

don't you know about the "powerful teachers' union"? weak? where have you been? teachers & HiPointDem Sep 2012 #29

Divide and conquerer. Confusious Sep 2012 #30

Right, sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #93

Do you even care that the students at this school were in open revolt against the firings-- eridani Sep 2012 #13

I didn't know that. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #18

Please google that. The letter is a real heartbreaker n/t eridani Sep 2012 #22

Also the actress Viola Davis is from Central Falls and spoke out in favor of the teachers proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #34

she's in that? omg. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #64

What was the federal government supposed to do? aquart Sep 2012 #131

Not stick their oar in with a widely broadcast approval of the firings? eridani Sep 2012 #134

Same destination Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #12

I don't respect her decision. madaboutharry Sep 2012 #3

Yeah Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #15

And ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #19

so are the teachers being disproportionately laid off/fired under obama's education policies. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #20

Make this an OP, please? n/t eridani Sep 2012 #61

already did. it's here: HiPointDem Sep 2012 #62

WTF? Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #36

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #51

Express yourself ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #56

all you have is the race card and you're going to mock me for an inability to articulate my thoughts frylock Sep 2012 #70

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #72

i'm so hurt frylock Sep 2012 #90

Well, I would have put that a bit more diplomatically Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #78

it was a rough morning.. frylock Sep 2012 #85

Yeah, I know the feeling Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #91

We were told by The Man himself to hold his feet to the fire, so truedelphi Sep 2012 #42

are you serious? they called 900K signatures one? HiPointDem Sep 2012 #63

Yes, I am very serious. If you Google truedelphi Sep 2012 #83

wow. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #86

Can you share how a President Romney would address your concerns? mzmolly Sep 2012 #50

It took Nixon to go to China. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #96

What legislation do you take issue mzmolly Sep 2012 #97

Are you new to this forum? Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #98

What part of Union busting did Obama mzmolly Sep 2012 #103

Also know as cutting off your nose to spite your face. upaloopa Sep 2012 #4

She's not voting for romney either. They both support education deform. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #5

The bolding is apparently necessary. LWolf Sep 2012 #9

+1 HiPointDem Sep 2012 #10

"who the hell are you going to vote for, rube?!" has become a major party plank frylock Sep 2012 #52

+1. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #66

I wish that those who throw out that mantra LWolf Sep 2012 #68

Ms. Ratvitch supported 'reform' not long ago. mzmolly Sep 2012 #24

i'm fully aware of that. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #25

And she has completely turned around and been a vocal opponent for years now. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #35

Regardless, I find it ironic that anyone who supported mzmolly Sep 2012 #53

What makes you think she lacks tolerance? proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #54

Supporting non-Obama voters, mzmolly Sep 2012 #57

Huh? proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #58

Read the OP mzmolly Sep 2012 #59

I read it more carefully & i still don't understand what you mean. That ravitch was a bush HiPointDem Sep 2012 #67

I am saying she supports not voting for mzmolly Sep 2012 #71

"supports"? HiPointDem Sep 2012 #73

Yes. mzmolly Sep 2012 #74

please copy the passage you read as 'support'. please copy the passage in my posts also that HiPointDem Sep 2012 #75

You read my assumptions as bullying? mzmolly Sep 2012 #76

more of the same. bye. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #87

What about the students? mzmolly Sep 2012 #88

But Romney supports Rahm on the strike. So do Ryan, Rupert Murdoch, & Giuliani. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #89

Got a quote from Romney mzmolly Sep 2012 #106

You don't support Romney. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #99

You're bashing Obama, and I'm sure Romney/Ryan are pleased. mzmolly Sep 2012 #105

"add funding via RTTT" - to get rttt money districts have to sign on to education deform. it's HiPointDem Sep 2012 #107

Explain. mzmolly Sep 2012 #110

To get RTTT money you have to meet certain conditions, such as: HiPointDem Sep 2012 #111

What you pointed me to was a draft of a proposal from one Trish Brennan Gac. mzmolly Sep 2012 #112

what i showed you in fact describes the conditions, as you acknowledge in your post. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #113

That doesn't mean that you have to create mzmolly Sep 2012 #114

no, you're misinformed. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #115

The distinction is in the words "have to create" mzmolly Sep 2012 #116

False positions? HiPointDem Sep 2012 #119

Charters were exempt from NCLB. mzmolly Sep 2012 #120

Charters were mostly non-existent before NCLB. NCLB was designed to CREATE charters. But HiPointDem Sep 2012 #122

Posting a comparison between NCLB and RTTT for the record. mzmolly Sep 2012 #117

proves my point: HiPointDem Sep 2012 #121

Cheers. mzmolly Sep 2012 #123

nope. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #124

I'm sorry. I know it must be shocking mzmolly Sep 2012 #125

we already know the democrats don't need teachers in their party anymore. no need to rub it in HiPointDem Sep 2012 #126

Who is we? mzmolly Sep 2012 #130

I did. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #69

What does not voting accomplish, then? Scootaloo Sep 2012 #31

Don't shoot the messenger. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #32

I'm voting Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #39

She is most certainly voting for Romney... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #128

Sorry, no... Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #16

Well, perhaps you can find a less "evil" mzmolly Sep 2012 #60

Gosh, I love how inclusive and tolerant you are being Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #77

I am not here to express my tolerance for Romney mzmolly Sep 2012 #92

Are you calling me a Romney supporter? Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #94

Yes. mzmolly Sep 2012 #95

And tama Sep 2012 #102

Oh, is it my job to win hearts and minds? mzmolly Sep 2012 #104

I thought tama Sep 2012 #108

I thought you wanted Romney mzmolly Sep 2012 #109

So, by your logic Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #129

No, that would be you. mzmolly Sep 2012 #132

Does she want Social Security and Medicare destroyed before she retires as well? eridani Sep 2012 #11

she's not voting for romney either. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #14

Obama has signaled his willingness Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #17

An overt attack is still different from a wussy defense n/t eridani Sep 2012 #21

End result is the same Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #37

I strongly suspect that Obama and the Dems can be made to realize eridani Sep 2012 #41

See, here's the problem Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #81

It would be nice to have the optimism you have - truedelphi Sep 2012 #43

Where is the President's so called, televised quote? mzmolly Sep 2012 #23

Right, it was actually his minion, arne duncan, who called superintendent gallo courageous. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #27

An important distinction, mzmolly Sep 2012 #44

I give you the point, but the distinction isn't so important in my eyes. Duncan is Obama's hand- HiPointDem Sep 2012 #46

It's important to me. But what's more important is the mzmolly Sep 2012 #48

i'm sure she cares. but she's not voting for obama -- or romney, who instituted a similar health HiPointDem Sep 2012 #65

No, overturning health care reform mzmolly Sep 2012 #118

I know how she feels. n/t Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #26

I'm mad too but I just can't be a one issue voter proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #33

This is not about just "one issue" Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #38

Romney's SCOTUS would be much much worse proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #40

The SCOTUS is currently Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #79

Do you think that Romney is an acceptable mzmolly Sep 2012 #49

I'm not voting for Romeny Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #80

Exactly. mzmolly Sep 2012 #45

It's Rhode Island gaspee Sep 2012 #47

Highpoint.... AnneD Sep 2012 #55

Applause!!!! proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #82

You know.... AnneD Sep 2012 #84

+100 Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #100

I am a democrat... AnneD Sep 2012 #127

See ya and don't let the door... Cattledog Sep 2012 #101

Cutting off your nose to spite your face Smilo Sep 2012 #133