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LWolf

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1. This line stands out for me:
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:13 PM
Sep 2012
the majority of people in the United States remain in the social class of their birth.

I am one of the very, very, few who pulled herself up by those non-existent boot straps. I raised 2 kids, worked, sometimes 2 jobs, and put myself through school. I paid all of my student loans. I bankrupted myself rescuing my grandson from a life-threatening health crisis. In my 50s, I don't have a lot to show for "pulling myself up."

Those 2 kids? One did just like I did...became a parent straight out of high school and gave up his plans for college to raise the kid.

The other did 2 years at community college, then left to take a retail job, which paid him more after 2 years than I was making after 2 decades in education. When the economy crashed and he was laid off, he went back to school, finished his BA, and is finishing his MA this year. His student loan debt terrifies me. He's going to be 35 next month, and it may take him the rest of his life to pay it down.

None of us have lived that middle class life with the nicer home, the newer cars, the vacations, etc..

We're in better shape than the generations before me, but not by much.

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This line stands out for me: LWolf Sep 2012 #1
I think one of the reasons is that within living memory americans (my grandparents and parents' HiPointDem Sep 2012 #2
"Magic merit dust" -- there's a memorable phrase. :^) eppur_se_muova Sep 2012 #3
"But our mythology has never caught up with the facts." Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #4
Don't be so quick to denounce it as a myth. Igel Sep 2012 #6
Colleges are not efficient? At what? mbperrin Sep 2012 #7
"if you can compete, you can move up". everyone can compete. most people lose. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #8
Do you mean your assertion to apply to professional athletes? If not how do you define exceptions?nt jody Sep 2012 #13
OR upward mobility is more restricted to STEM fields and some entertainment fields. nt jody Sep 2012 #14
If most jobs are of the burger-flipping variety, that means most people will not be 'competitive,' HiPointDem Dec 2012 #20
Didn't the Head Start Program have any effect on reducing poverty? jody Sep 2012 #5
head start has no effect on the poverty rate. it's an educational enrichment program intended HiPointDem Sep 2012 #9
OK Head Start has only minor effects on children. Its purpose is jody Sep 2012 #10
it has been successful. it's the most successful educational intervention ever. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #11
You assert Head Start is the "most successful educational intervention ever" but on what factor? jody Sep 2012 #12
Head start has been around for nearly 50 years and has been studied intensively over that time. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #15
I understand, your mind is made up so reject facts even the "Head Start Impact Study". I want to jody Sep 2012 #16
Children remain mired in poverty because wealth is becoming more concentrated. The one follows HiPointDem Sep 2012 #17
Is poverty destiny? Ideology vs. evidence in school reform GMR Transcription Dec 2012 #18
Members, I'm pretty sure this account is a spam bot. Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #19
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