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Goblinmonger

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24. Of course homework improves grades
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:24 PM
Nov 2012

when it is part of the grade. That's a tautology.

If there are studies which show causation between homework and improved understanding, let me know. Showing me a website that is trying to show homework is good isn't a study. And that website saying "The right kind of homework increases student achievement" is also not a study.

As to this:

Practice assignments reinforce newly acquired skills.

Is there ANYTHING in that rhetoric (again, not a study) that indicates that the "practice" has to be in the form of homework and that the same (or potentially even better) results couldn't be reached in the classroom under the supervision of someone trained to help the student when they make a mistake.

When a website devoted to pushing the importance of homework says there are "mixed feelings," you should know that it is probably more than just "mixed feelings." But again, show me an actual study that shows causation (not just correlation) and I'd be happy to give it a look. Personally, I'll go with Kohn when he says there has never been a study that shows that causation, especially when even Marzano couldn't tell him that claim was bullshit.

And don't tell me I'm "undermining" our educational system because I am in line with what ALL the research says. I take my profession very seriously.

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link to Psychology Today original article Viva_La_Revolution Nov 2012 #1
When Kohn tweeted a link to his new blog post Goblinmonger Nov 2012 #2
that's cool, I hope he's getting paid Viva_La_Revolution Nov 2012 #7
always thought that any good that it did was outweighed by an order of mopinko Nov 2012 #3
I absolutely agree proud2BlibKansan Nov 2012 #13
bulls**t DetlefK Nov 2012 #4
Why does that neural network Goblinmonger Nov 2012 #5
positive and negative feedback DetlefK Nov 2012 #12
10000000000% correct! LeftyLucy22 Nov 2012 #6
So why is there NO study Goblinmonger Nov 2012 #9
Oh, you mean like this? LeftyLucy22 Nov 2012 #19
You did read this, right? Goblinmonger Nov 2012 #22
Quotes you chose to ignore when you posted your incomplete sentence . . . . LeftyLucy22 Nov 2012 #23
Of course homework improves grades Goblinmonger Nov 2012 #24
Well, several of us here have already shown the value of homework. LeftyLucy22 Nov 2012 #25
I'm not ignoring facts. Goblinmonger Dec 2012 #29
is family time less important than rote learning? Viva_La_Revolution Nov 2012 #8
Homework should not be rote learning. LeftyLucy22 Nov 2012 #20
I will second that. Ka hrnt Nov 2012 #10
+1000 nt LeftyLucy22 Nov 2012 #27
I have just one name for you: MALCOLM GLADWELL savebigbird Dec 2012 #28
malcolm gladwell = paid propagandist HiPointDem Dec 2012 #30
The relevancy of your post confuses me. savebigbird Dec 2012 #31
gladwell is a paid liar, so why would anyone quote him on anything? yes, learning requires HiPointDem Dec 2012 #32
The quote was not being used as an exact prescription for expertness. savebigbird Dec 2012 #34
There was a big Canadian meta-study that debunked that. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #11
Kohn admits that correlation exists. Goblinmonger Nov 2012 #15
Homework is practice, and kids need practice, though. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #17
Exactly right! nt LeftyLucy22 Nov 2012 #21
Right. A student who's engaged and interested is more likely to do his homework. pnwmom Nov 2012 #26
there's a study, period, to prove anything. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #33
Hence my last sentence. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #35
i meant not just in education -- in every field. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #36
I hate homework. proud2BlibKansan Nov 2012 #14
It does in music and foreign language. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #18
Absolutely right. I have not assigned any homework in 15 years. mbperrin Dec 2012 #37
I never give homework. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #16
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