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In reply to the discussion: I heard a fellow teacher say- [View all]

The Philosopher

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11. Grammar happens regardless if we teach it or not.
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:19 PM
Dec 2012

Grammar is something we study and come to understand. "Proper" grammar are guidelines used to communicate to as many people as possible, easily interpreted (as a text can get) and easily accessible. "Proper" grammar, which really should be called "good" grammar, although even that may be a bit much, involves writing clearly, concisely and logically.

The reason we teach grammar is that the students, despite speaking English, are speaking foreign languages to each other. Deciding on a "proper" grammar gives a foothold to a standardized language that we (should) all have access to, so that miscommunication can be avoided as much as possible.

One could argue a credibility issue. If a person uses semi-colons where a comma should be placed, every time, and if that person writes a good amount, say for research or a business, then what does it say about that person? To write so much and not be familiar as to the difference between a semi-colon and comma? Not only would it be a basic observation (if you write a lot, you do read a good deal, enough to come across the difference) but it would call into question the person's research skills.

Whether or not the above is my argument is not something I care to consider right now. But it is an illustration, one that could be fleshed out better.

Considering grammar and science come from the same parent, shouldn’t there be an appreciation on the teacher’s part for grammar? One could say that the movement to grade twice a year is proof of an appreciation; but if that were true, why utter such a question as “Why do we need to teach grammar?”


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I heard a fellow teacher say- [View all] digonswine Dec 2012 OP
cool, if "he" is not teaching any language, we can cut "his" salary. win-win nt msongs Dec 2012 #1
Sounds like he's a science teacher and therefore not his field, AND you missed Lionessa Dec 2012 #2
I cannot now, nor really ever thought grammar makes much difference for non-writers. Lionessa Dec 2012 #3
At times I wonder if grammar is still being taught in asjr Dec 2012 #4
I think it is important sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #5
Where the ___ did that moron get his teaching credentials!?!? pegasis Dec 2012 #6
And where did you get your reading ability? Lionessa Dec 2012 #8
Yes, I did comprehend that part. pegasis Dec 2012 #9
You strongly suggest he's somehow a subpar teacher in your title and then Lionessa Dec 2012 #10
In my view... pegasis Dec 2012 #14
In many school districts, all teachers are expected to require some writing assignments as part of Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #21
As the first responder above proves, Lionessa Dec 2012 #7
Grammar happens regardless if we teach it or not. The Philosopher Dec 2012 #11
You use quotes inappropriately, the teacher never asked that. Lionessa Dec 2012 #13
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/such_as The Philosopher Dec 2012 #15
ah, but you changed his meaning so the such as becomes moot. Lionessa Dec 2012 #16
I didn't. The Philosopher Dec 2012 #18
Aha! Lionessa Dec 2012 #12
It will matter if you're hiring someone to pegasis Dec 2012 #17
As # 17 said-- digonswine Dec 2012 #19
Language always has grammar. But the rules change. Language evolves. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #20
Good question. Teacher in question is probably so swamped w. crazy-ass directives, memos.... Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #22
This certainly his feeling on the matter- digonswine Dec 2012 #23
Academic English has its own role in modern society... savebigbird Dec 2012 #24
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