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mbperrin

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39. Thanks. No, I would never say that either group is working harder than the other.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:09 AM
Jan 2013

They're different groups, certainly.

In Texas, where I am, K-4 are capped at 22 students per class.

When I was talking about assessment that takes unduly long, I meant because the grading required was time-consuming and unnecessarily, such as a new teacher last year who seemed to feel that she needed fill in the blank AND short answers AND an essay AND some multiple choice, often in excess of 150 questions per test. The multiple choice goes to the scantron, of course, but the other 125 or so must be hand-graded across 180 students, delaying needed feedback to students.

I didn't mean to blur the line between complex information obtained from evaluations and evaluations that are just too long, mechanically complicated or otherwise tedious to the point of interfering with results. I agree with you completely that much information can be gathered with a rather straightforward tool.

The other big difference is that I don't have to assist students in tying their shoes or going to the bathroom, just to name two. (Which is good; as a clumsy child, I couldn't tie my own shoes until junior high nor ride a bike nor skate.)

My fondest wish is for every teacher to find success and fulfillment. I began teaching because of the many terrific teachers I had, who didn't quit on a socially awkward, physically clumsy, shy to the point of tears, poverty background kid from the bus side of town.

Best wishes to you.

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Correction Left Turn Only Dec 2012 #11
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Duncan is the absolute bust of the Obama cabinet. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #17
nice right wing anti union talking points. madrchsod Dec 2012 #5
Damn right! We all need to stop rooting for what "our team" stands... chaska Dec 2012 #7
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The best democracy money can buy Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #43
Education will never be isolated from politics proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #44
No real teacher believes in mixed ability grouping?! knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #13
Picking and choosing Left Turn Only Dec 2012 #15
Mixed ability grouping can and does work, though. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #20
Really? Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #21
My assessments are tied to the standards. Of course they are. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #34
Damn straight. Excellent response. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #18
+1 proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #37
I don't believe your post... Sancho Dec 2012 #14
Public education is NOT about what the taxpaying public gets for its money MichiganVote Dec 2012 #16
+1 n/t duffyduff Jan 2013 #22
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It seems your views pertaining to elementary education today savebigbird Jan 2013 #33
Details? I'm in an intraschool task force where I meet mbperrin Jan 2013 #35
I am not accusing you of lying. savebigbird Jan 2013 #36
Thanks. No, I would never say that either group is working harder than the other. mbperrin Jan 2013 #39
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