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thucythucy

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2. We could try burying those lines.
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 09:38 AM
Nov 2023

One thing I've always noticed returning to the US from western Europe is how cluttered our streets are with power poles and lines. Not only is it unsightly--until you get used to it again--but it keeps us from planting trees along many of our roads, and yes, as mentioned in this article, it also leads to our cutting down so many old growth trees as well.

Whenever the idea is brought up people inevitably mention the cost. But then, what's the cost of power outages and repairs of downed poles after every major storm? What's the cost--financially--of the constant pruning that's needed of hundreds of thousands of trees every year? And of course, what's the cost to the environment of our slipshod infrastructure maintenance?

A major effort to bury what lines we can would be a huge boost to the environment, but I guess we'd rather spend that money on football stadiums and aircraft carriers.

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Sounds like Big Oil propaganda DoBW Nov 2023 #1
Yeah... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #15
We could try burying those lines. thucythucy Nov 2023 #2
I agree, there's a lot of places where lines can, and should be buried. patphil Nov 2023 #11
Transmission Professionals Group: Overhead vs. Underground Power: Why Do We Use Both Locations? OKIsItJustMe Nov 2023 #30
One wonders then how the Europeans have managed so well thucythucy Nov 2023 #33
Well, the article does not seem to say that suspending the cables is clearly preferable OKIsItJustMe Nov 2023 #34
Going underground... Tikki Nov 2023 #3
Oh, it's more than that. Jirel Nov 2023 #4
My understanding is TX has one of the highest solar and wind KWh rates in the US Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #8
Doesn't have to come from fossil fuels Blues Heron Nov 2023 #9
You do realize... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #16
Well if you look at the math EV's have a lower carbon footprint CentralMass Nov 2023 #17
Did you consider.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #23
I posted this before about a search engine that plants trees depending on your sereaches Maraya1969 Nov 2023 #5
Sold! DoBW Nov 2023 #6
Ever hear of underground power lines? Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #7
Underground is much more expensive to install NickB79 Nov 2023 #12
This article was about the periodic replacement of wood poles Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #13
It's about replacing existing poles with larger poles NickB79 Nov 2023 #19
or other materials to be used. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #24
Sure. Steel could be subbed in NickB79 Nov 2023 #25
Or any other suitable material. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #26
It takes 1.6 tons of ore to yield 1 ton of steel NickB79 Nov 2023 #29
My personal experience with power lines RainCaster Nov 2023 #35
Interesting. Some more info: sl8 Nov 2023 #10
UH-OH!... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #14
If that's all you got from the article NickB79 Nov 2023 #20
It's a false concern.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #22
I for one am quite concerned about harvesting old growth timber NickB79 Nov 2023 #27
Yes, we WILL be screwed... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #31
Let's build a society where people are not forced to own or subsidize cars. hunter Nov 2023 #18
Hear, hear! (nt) CoopersDad Nov 2023 #36
Don't worry, be happy. Clear cut forests make great former wilderness for wind turbine industrial parks. NNadir Nov 2023 #21
we need to do a massive upgrade of our Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #28
Old poles wear out and are being maintained with wraps and underground injections bucolic_frolic Nov 2023 #32
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