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Environment & Energy

Bernardo de La Paz

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13. If we don't start finding out now what infrastructure works

Reply to NNadir (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2023, 08:27 PM

Dec 2023

If we don't start finding out now what infrastructure ('service stations', repair jobs, durability, etc.) works, then it will not be possible to suddenly pop up the right systems when H2 becomes predominantly not sourced via fossil fuels.

Hydrogen is less efficient than direct use of electricity, but (despite its horrible physical properties) it might be preferred in many applications. Only way to find out what works for users is to try. H2 will be part of the mix, but it is unknowable now just how much.

No amount of soothsaying can reliably predict future preferences, especially when there will be a lot of development in the R&D (research and development).

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A Giant Climate Lie: When they're selling hydrogen, what they're really selling is fossil fuels. [View all] NNadir Jul 2023 OP

Kickin' Faux pas Jul 2023 #1

Hydrogen is made from ANY source of energy... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #2

Your title is a lie, according to Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm Caribbeans Jul 2023 #3

No, my title is a true statement with references to the primary scientific literature, numbers... NNadir Jul 2023 #4

Not exactly... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #5

Present day production is not the same as 2050 production Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #9

The confusion of soothsaying with reality is why we're in this horrible mess. NNadir Dec 2023 #10

Because of issues like which infrastructure and consumer preferences, Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #11

It is obscene to make hydrogen for fuel purposes when fossil fuels dominate the energy supply. NNadir Dec 2023 #12

If we don't start finding out now what infrastructure works Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #13

Um, the Journal of Hydrogen Energy has been in continuous print since 1976, almost half a century. NNadir Dec 2023 #14

Yes, one can see problems, but nobody knows what choices will be chosen Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #15

It's a very poor analogy that stuff about Meta etc. NNadir Dec 2023 #16

You are very wrong to twist my words Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #17

Oh please... NNadir Dec 2023 #18

Nice strawman you got there. Nobody called you a communist Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #19

Updated to include link to the first referenced paper, and to make a minor cosmetic change. NNadir Jul 2023 #6

The intent of this post is to mislead... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #7

Another pretty chart... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #8