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19. I never said power is equivalent to energy. I SAID THE POWER RATING OF A BATTERY PACK AND
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:29 PM
Dec 2023

Last edited Wed Dec 13, 2023, 10:20 PM - Edit history (2)

ITS ENERGY STORAGE CAPABILITY ARE BOTH IMPORTANT. I'm an electrical engineer just like you. I have operational planning experience where a large part of the job is making sure there are enough capacity to meet the load on an hour by hour basis in the most economic manner while meeting reliability requirements. And a masters degree in power systems. I was also involved with area regulation control where load must be met on a second-by-second basis (Automatic Generation Control) or corrective action taken automatically (usually).

EDITED TO ADD (855p CT): I finally looked at the video more closely

At 2:58 they show a table titled "Wind power generation 2022" and the first line on the table is "Texas 114,787 megawatts",
2nd line: "Iowa 45,761 megawatts"

That of course is wrong. Those should be megawatt hours (MWh), not megawatts. Is that what you are talking about? If so, I am appalled and at the same time not surprised at all to see stuff like this in media reports, since I see confusion between MW and MWh all the time.

As I'm sure you know, most journalists fall well short of the upper rungs of technical literacy.

2nd EDIT TO ADD - FWIW, the video didn't mention batteries or any other storage technology or functionality.

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K&R Think. Again. Dec 2023 #1
The Texas legislature and no doubt the governor are not happy about this woke power stuff progree Dec 2023 #2
The condundrum that renewable energy hating Texas politicians find themselves in... Finishline42 Dec 2023 #3
Batteries store eneregy, not power. Progressive dog Dec 2023 #5
They deliver their rated power for a few hours, typically 4 hours or so from articles I've read progree Dec 2023 #6
The bttery cost is approximately proportional to Progressive dog Dec 2023 #7
The power rating is also important. A battery could store a gazillion GWH of energy, but if it can only deliver progree Dec 2023 #8
It takes exactly the same amount Progressive dog Dec 2023 #9
I've been in the power supply planning and superintendant of operational planning of an electric utility for many years progree Dec 2023 #10
Battery back up is not for minute long outages. Progressive dog Dec 2023 #11
No, but other already online generation (and batteries) can be ramped up (the spinning reserve) . And gas turbines can progree Dec 2023 #12
Texas had an avoidable power failure in 2021 Progressive dog Dec 2023 #14
I'm not claiming that battery backup is a good solution to all power system issues progree Dec 2023 #15
So 24 hours of the shortfall in Germany Progressive dog Dec 2023 #18
Of course Powerwalls specify the energy storage. progree Dec 2023 #20
They cannot say trhat power is equivalent to energy Progressive dog Dec 2023 #17
I never said power is equivalent to energy. I SAID THE POWER RATING OF A BATTERY PACK AND progree Dec 2023 #19
NREL: The Four Phases of Storage Deployment: A Framework for the Expanding Role of Storage in the U.S. Power System OKIsItJustMe Dec 2023 #16
Texas is not going green. hunter Dec 2023 #4
Texas Net Electricity Generation by Source, Jun. 2023 OKIsItJustMe Dec 2023 #13
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