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hunter

(39,373 posts)
9. Why do you say it would be "huge step back in the American lifestyle?"
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 01:28 PM
Oct 2024

Most proposals to reduce the environmental footprint of humans are huge steps forward and will improve the lives of everyone in terms of health and happiness.

Many environmentally destructive things that supposedly makes us happy (according to the smiling faces on television) are actually great sources of misery to many people.

Automobiles are no source of happiness for people who can't really afford to keep them in good repair but need them to work. They are no source of happiness when people killed or maimed in automobile accidents. If we dismantle our automobile culture by rebuilding our cities to make car ownership unnecessary people might be happier and healthier. That would be a step forward, not a step back.

Having more children than one can comfortably support is often a source of great misery. If birth control and realistic sex education is readily available to all then people might be healthier and happier and human population growth halted. That's a step forward, not back.

Factory farm meat and dairy production is bad for the environment, bad for the people who work in that industry, and worse for the animals...

Etc.. I can easily go on.

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There are very few processes that come to a dead end. Unintended/unforseen consequences is the sea we swim in. marble falls Oct 2024 #1
Unfortunately, the hydrogen scam is being sold, widely, as "green" and sustainable. It is no such thing. It's filthy. NNadir Oct 2024 #3
No one ever sees a downside to grasping at straws to eliminate the net zero conclussion at the runaway use of energy ... marble falls Oct 2024 #4
Why do you say it would be "huge step back in the American lifestyle?" hunter Oct 2024 #9
Sounds like you already know the answer to your question. We need a huge step back in the American lifestyle ... marble falls Oct 2024 #11
I still don't see what you mean by "step back." hunter Oct 2024 #12
I completely agree that we need to build out Green Hydrogen as much and as quickly as possible. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #2
Culprit here is not your nemesis H2, but rather coal and methane Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #5
My point is that hydrogen is a scam designed to greenwash fossil fuels. Mechanistic details are trivial. NNadir Oct 2024 #6
The hydrogen here is not greenwashing. As an intermediate, net production is zero. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #7
You're entitled to your own wrong opinion. NNadir Oct 2024 #8
Yes, we need to build out GREEN Hydrogen which is made and used without any CO2 emissions. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #10
China is envious of the U.S.A. natural gas pipeline network. hunter Oct 2024 #13
It would be (very slightly) less odious if instead of methane, they chose DME. (They have industrial DME plants.) NNadir Oct 2024 #14
We mock what we cannot use a rational argument against OKIsItJustMe Oct 2024 #15
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