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NNadir

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15. We don't generate very much "clean" energy.

Reply to usonian (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 3, 2024, 09:52 AM

Dec 3

The idea that we need therefore to store it at a thermodyamic penalty is one of the most tragic ideas to float around. It is, in fact, the opposite of good sense.

Combined the solar and wind industry produced, as of 2023 just 16 Exajoules of energy on a planet now consuming 642 Exajoules per year, despite trillions of dollars squandered on them.

The idea that energy storage is a good idea is the intellectual equivalent of the belief during the middle ages that the cure for bubonic plague was to huddle in rat infested churches to pray.

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California can't use all its solar power. That's a huge problem. CA's solar plants don't even operate at full capacity [View all] Caribbeans Dec 3 OP

No rational person builds a plant to accommodate a few hours every few weeks of otherwise useless power. NNadir Dec 3 #1

I agree, Hydrogen should only be made using some of this excess green energy rather than fossil fuels... Think. Again. Dec 3 #4

Hydrogen is only Figarosmom Dec 3 #6

Or we could store the excess clean energy using Hydrogen made from other excess clean energy! Think. Again. Dec 3 #7

Around here, there is a lot of ignorant people who regard energy storage as primary energy. In any case... NNadir Dec 3 #11

"Millions of dollars of electricity go to waste because the infrastructure isn't in place to store or move all the solar Think. Again. Dec 3 #2

is there funding coming from the infrastructure bill? SleeplessinSoCal Dec 3 #8

Oh yes, the Inflation Reduction Act and the Infrastructure Investment Act both dedicate funds to energy distribution... Think. Again. Dec 3 #9

It proves it's not pie in the sky thinking Figarosmom Dec 3 #3

Great idea! Think. Again. Dec 3 #5

That won't work. druidity33 Dec 3 #10

It proves no such thing. It's garbage thinking. NNadir Dec 3 #12

Other forms of energy storage are possible for CA BubbaJoe Dec 3 #13

How giant 'batteries' in the Earth could slash your electricity bills. usonian Dec 3 #14

We don't generate very much "clean" energy. NNadir Dec 3 #15

should be rooftop solar on houses and businesses not solar farms for corporate welfare nt msongs Dec 3 #16

Yup. There's nothing better on this planet than giving tax breaks to the rich; houses would be the thing to do it. NNadir Dec 3 #17