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In reply to the discussion: Poll: Should Deniers Be Allowed To Post In E&E? [View all]defacto7
(13,627 posts)43. Let me count the ways....
"And I don't see how exclusion serves any useful political or educational function. "
Total exclusion does not serve any political or educational function. This is not exclusion, it's using the proper filing system. I don't need to learn the ABCs before reading every book. First graders should go to the first grade class so High schoolers have a chance to discuss Steinbeck without the noise.
"refusing to respond to their abuse is one sure way to get the message across in an open forum."
It's a waste of time to even have to refuse to respond. It also gives a platform for non-science graffiti to be painted over and over. Refusing to respond is a call to arms for people who are only interested in dogma and not interested in learning anything.
"If the dysfunctional are forbidden to the public discourse,"
They are not forbidden public discourse. They would be given the opportunity to listen and learn instead of disrupting. If they still don't get it, there is still 99.9% of DU left to plaster whatever they want.
"then the public doesn't learn how to deal with the dysfunctional."
If the subject is Learning Internet Etiquette 101, then sure. It is not. Lots of other places for that. File them elsewhere.
"So I recommend some smarts here."
I think we covered that... There is no exclusion, just a better file system.
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I've done much better, I'm just bringing it down to a level that you might understand...
truebrit71
Jun 2014
#22
You have one thing, and one thing only, right. You've brought it down to a level where thought ends.
rug
Jun 2014
#23
My other thought on this is that several of us know exactly who would come back
CreekDog
Jun 2014
#10
You said, "grinding out the basics of "is it or isn't it" in every discussion isn't helpful
tblue37
Jun 2014
#42
climate change denial is facilitating a crime against humanity (and a multitude of other species)
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2014
#21
I agree it should be a TOS issue and it has been included in PPR justifications
CreekDog
Jun 2014
#33
Adults' table was a great tradition so they could carry on serious discussion
lostnfound
Oct 2023
#117
No, "all things" doesn't mean people can post intentionally misleading and unscientific things
CreekDog
Jun 2014
#30
I'm not going to lose any sleep over the fact that several deniers aren't allowed to post here
CreekDog
Jun 2014
#32
Why not just be honest, and make it a protected group with an agenda and a purpose and limitations
MADem
Jun 2014
#38
I think it will solve a lot of problems--it will certainly direct the conversation in a positive
MADem
Jun 2014
#41
Well, he couldn't have claimed that he "didn't know" if the rules are clearly spelled out,
MADem
Jun 2014
#45
The ones who deny reality and prefer to hide behind right wing talking points ...
Nihil
Apr 2015
#71
Yes, we are the party that allows civilized debate even with those who are dead wrong. n/t
SylviaD
Feb 2016
#80
I think that kind of nonsense is probably better suited for, say, creative speculation.
MADem
Oct 2016
#88
All FL Fringe Millennials,XYZ-Gen's obligated vote dem per FL' very real crucial 4x-Env. Crisis's
ZAZMAZ42
Nov 2016
#89
No complete waste of the group's space and purpose. Free to start thier own group
lunasun
Mar 2018
#101
Freedom of Speech wins. Also winning is several types of ignore buttons on DU - such
patricia92243
Apr 2022
#114