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zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
35. Bingo
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 09:42 AM
Mar 2012

Large changes in temperature, especially over short periods of time aren't "efficient". Programable thermostats should be used to avoid "chasing peaks". When it's warm, you want to allow the peak to pass without fighting it. So if the house will naturally peak out at 84 during the day, and then settle back to 80 by 6pm, you might consider allowing that, and then starting stronger cooling at 6 pm to get it down to whatever you want it to be for evening/night.

With heating, you want the whole house to stay as close to some target temperature as possible. Small incremental changes are the most efficient way to heat things. So you can let it "cool down" a little at night, but at somepoint you want to start heating up the house very slowly. So suppose you want the house at 68 when you arise at 7 am. You'd want to program the thermostat to heat the house up about 1 degree every hour. So depending how low it will go during the night, you'll have to back calculate when to start heating the place back up. But if you lose 2 degree per hour out of the house, it will take you twice as long to heat it back up. So in 3 hours you'll lose 6 degrees, and it will take you 6 hours to "get it back". So you could let it start cooling down an hour before going to bed, and then 3 hours later, start warming it back up.

Probably not a great saver. Better to just let it drop a couple of degrees during the night and then a couple of hours prior to rising, have it come back up.

What's buried in all these numbers is the value and reality of "stored heat". Huge thrermal masses are a great way to maintain the heat of the house. Brick walls, tile floors, thick insulation, these are very useful and effective because they maintain a constant temperature and represent slow, incremental changes in the temperature of the home. Slow and incremental is the most efficient way. Blasting the AC or heat to "quickly" warm things up is the LEAST efficient way to get the job done.

Oh, and to answer the original question, we tend to leave the thermostat at 64. I've got thick socks and I drink hot tea. Lots of throws around the house as well. My hand does often get cold on the mouse though.

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I don't have all that fancy zone stuff. Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #1
Yeah, I wear one of my hubby's quilted flannel shirts over my clothes, and like you I snuggle GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #2
Sigh. Shorts in the winter! Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #4
Children have a different internal thermostat than adults. I can remember being much GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #5
Definitely PROGRAMMABLE THERMOSTATS! mzteris Jan 2012 #3
we got a programmable around Xmas this year NMDemDist2 Jan 2012 #6
Yes! Hubby wasn't turning the bedroom down at all and I couldn't sleep because I was GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #9
I think you could use one as well but I have one and just do it manually maddezmom Jan 2012 #7
I'm in Maine so off is out of the question. It has been more humid than I have been used to in the GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #8
I hear you, I grew up in upstate NY maddezmom Jan 2012 #10
I am breaking my own rules that I taught my children. At the age of 70 I find I am cold much of the jwirr Jan 2012 #11
I understand needing to do that. My grandparents did too as they got older. Maybe it all balances GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #12
In Texas, the big cost of elec. is A/C. northoftheborder Jan 2012 #13
We don't have any thermostats, but we do have a thermometer Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #14
braggart maddezmom Jan 2012 #15
Teehee! nt Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #16
I live in a 2-bedroom mobile home, RebelOne Jan 2012 #17
That was our situation last year. Dead (oil) furnace in a mobile home. Not fun, but luckily we GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #20
Until about 2 years ago, I kept the windows open even if it snowed and the thermostat at 45 degrees. freshwest Jan 2012 #18
Oh my! That sounds so painful! Is there nothing else you can do for it other than GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #21
I have to use hot pads all day and part of the night. There's no cure and no RX will stop it. freshwest Jan 2012 #23
Well, we're talking about getting an air exchange system, but I need to GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #24
When I get Charlie horses, I just eat bananas Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #26
No zones--65, pretty much. Wear a sweater. MADem Jan 2012 #19
We are out of pets at the moment, but I look forward to GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #22
+1! nt MADem Jan 2012 #25
On second thought, there is a thermostat in this house. It's in the water heater. dimbear Feb 2012 #27
That makes sense. We kept our electric water heater on 120, I think, mostly because GreenPartyVoter Feb 2012 #28
I wish they weren't so expensive. n/t dimbear Feb 2012 #29
Setting back by more than 10 degrees does not work Kolesar Feb 2012 #30
Bingo zipplewrath Mar 2012 #35
Our zones are pretty simple NEOhiodemocrat Feb 2012 #31
Another fan of programmables here. GoCubsGo Mar 2012 #32
We are on a peak demand meter randr Mar 2012 #33
I finally caved today and put on my A/C maddezmom Mar 2012 #34
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