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azurnoir

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49. Goldstone was involved in the death sentences of Black's in apartheid SA

Fri May 13, 2016, 10:47 AM

May 2016

Judicial decisions Richard Goldstone made in South Africa that resulted in sending black South Africans to their deaths under the apartheid regime have nothing to do with his report on the Gaza war, he told Haaretz yesterday.
The comments came in response to an article in which he was accused of being in no moral position to judge Israel because he was involved in capital punishment in the apartheid regime.

The article in the Yedioth Ahronoth daily said Goldstone, who headed the UN committee that accused both Israel and Hamas of war crimes during the Gaza war of 2008-2009, was responsible for sending at least 28 black South Africans to their deaths when they appeared before him in court.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/richard-goldstone-i-have-no-regrets-about-the-gaza-war-report-1.288535

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Calling Israel an apartheid state is an insult to black South Africans [View all] ericson00 May 2016 OP

Being a law student is obviously no protection against bad argumentation. Little Tich May 2016 #1

You have never been to Israel or the West Bank oberliner May 2016 #2

Maybe (s)he stayed in a Holiday Inn Express, nt COLGATE4 May 2016 #3

Where did you stay COLGATE4 ???? Israeli May 2016 #41

Your reply doesn't even make sense. COLGATE4 May 2016 #45

About as much sense as yours ... Israeli May 2016 #47

It's a joke from American TV. Makes fun of people thinking that COLGATE4 May 2016 #58

I think only half the posters in this group have ever been there... King_David May 2016 #4

I think its a hell of a lot less ... Israeli May 2016 #42

48.6% ? King_David May 2016 #43

In this group KD ????? Israeli May 2016 #48

Oh, I've been to Israel a few times. Little Tich May 2016 #34

Now you're bringing up discrimination. BDS uses that fake list of 50 discriminatory laws.... shira May 2016 #37

Think before you post. Little Tich May 2016 #38

Sorry, but that fake list is used by BDS to prove apartheid WITHIN Israel.... shira May 2016 #39

I only support the kind of BDS that Hillary Clinton is against - BDS against the occupation and Little Tich May 2016 #44

There is no such BDS movement. Who are the leaders of this movement who are not.... shira May 2016 #46

BDS is a political tool, not an organization. Little Tich May 2016 #62

The Methodist church supports the 2005 BDS "global" movement.... shira May 2016 #63

My brain hurts. Little Tich May 2016 #64

Hillary is opposed to BDS period. There's only 1 BDS, the bad Jew hating kind. shira May 2016 #65

In spite of your assertions, the Earth still rotates around the Sun. Little Tich May 2016 #66

WTF? The Methodist Church quoted from global BDS, ElectronicIntifada.... shira May 2016 #68

Do you have a definition of Apartheid yet? What's taking so long? Maybe.... shira May 2016 #78

How about you oberliner ? Israeli May 2016 #40

We have no idea where Oberliner lives King_David May 2016 #61

My screen name Tony_FLADEM might provide a clue as to where I live. Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #75

A place full of Zionist Jewish democrats King_David May 2016 #76

Your BDS friends lie when they say there's Apartheid WITHIN Israel. shira May 2016 #5

I didn't know I had any BDS friends. Little Tich May 2016 #35

The greater BDS movement claims apartheid within Israel. shira May 2016 #36

agreed yourpaljoey May 2016 #54

And bds continues leftynyc May 2016 #6

It is a success to the extent it foments & incites hatred. Which is the point... shira May 2016 #7

It's a colossal failure leftynyc May 2016 #9

The boycotting, divesting, sanctions have been a failure.... shira May 2016 #10

Could be leftynyc May 2016 #11

I think BDS'ers will love Donnie Trump. They hate Jews... shira May 2016 #12

Nah leftynyc May 2016 #14

What a disgusting bullshit claim. Shame on you. cali May 2016 #21

I've debated BDS'ers for years & I have yet to find one... shira May 2016 #30

You got it exactly 6chars May 2016 #15

They want Israel gone. What will that accomplish? shira May 2016 #17

If it's a colossal failure as you say it is Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #60

Has their ever been a precedent in history of boycotting Jews or Jewish businesses in the world? King_David May 2016 #67

They are boycotting a country because they deem some of it's policies in violation of Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #69

So the homophobic gay hating filth government in the Palestinian statelet is supported King_David May 2016 #70

There is no Palestinian State and increasted settlements by another country in an georgraphic Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #72

If there is a lethal hate on Gays as there is in Palestine and Uganda and Islamic state and Iran King_David May 2016 #74

not according to Desmond Tutu moreover the author Leon Jamaine Mithi is currently a law student azurnoir May 2016 #8

Tutu has that old Church hatred of the chosen people. Got a better example? shira May 2016 #13

so according to you Desmond Tutu is an anti semite? a hater of Jews? azurnoir May 2016 #16

His work with Sabeel is all the proof I need. They're old-school Jew haters. n/t shira May 2016 #18

Desmond Tutu an antisemite? but a guy who was around 3-5 yrs when Apartheid ended is azurnoir May 2016 #19

His own quotes speak for themselves... shira May 2016 #25

LOL, of course there are those that sit in Minnesota King_David May 2016 #23

and some assume quite a bit don't they? However Tutu is South African and did actually live azurnoir May 2016 #24

His background doesn't mean anything based on his POV on Jews. n/t shira May 2016 #26

He has commanded Jews on their role in ending apartheid in SA azurnoir May 2016 #28

I hope you can at least agree that antisemites' views on the Jewish state are irrelevant... shira May 2016 #29

You were critical of the author King_David May 2016 #31

I pointed out Desmond Tutu who lived under apartheid far longer than the author possibly could have azurnoir May 2016 #32

Quite a few S.Africans including Richard Goldstone call BS on Israeli apartheid claims. shira May 2016 #33

Goldstone was involved in the death sentences of Black's in apartheid SA azurnoir May 2016 #49

Good point. So let's dismiss both Tutu and Goldstone due to their prejudices. n/t shira May 2016 #50

Tutu did sentence anyone to anything nor can I find Goldstone saying anything about the term azurnoir May 2016 #51

No, he's just a bigot so he's fine. n/t shira May 2016 #52

that Tutu is a bigot is your opinion -not a fact azurnoir May 2016 #53

If Tutu's statements are old antisemitic tropes that the vast majority.... shira May 2016 #56

I would say "if" is operative word here azurnoir May 2016 #57

Tutu has made some awkward and some questionable comments but cali May 2016 #20

Yea , I don't think he actually hates Jews King_David May 2016 #22

See #25. And I didn't know he praised Jews in their role for dismantling Apartheid. shira May 2016 #27

And yet, so many black South Africans seem to disagree Scootaloo May 2016 #55

There's nothing wrong about Christian viewpoints on Israel. shira May 2016 #59

why is OK when Islam people invoke the holiness of ericson00 May 2016 #71

Calling Israel an apartheid state is just plain stupid Albertoo May 2016 #73

It is. And notice that those attacking Israel, say nothing about Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran patsimp May 2016 #77