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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. You have no idea what you are talking about
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:29 AM
May 2016

You might want to consider expanding beyond Wikipedia for your information.

Israel did not accept the Clinton Parameters "with 20 pages of objections". Go to the source material that Wikipedia used to construct this paragraph. It comes from an interview with Ehud Barak conducted by Ari Shavit of Ha'aretz in September of 2002.

If you actually read the interview (which I'm assuming you haven't), you will note that Barak says that he accepted the parameters when they were proposed by Clinton, and that Arafat did not. The 20-page document was sent later, after Arafat had rejected the parameters as a basis for negotiation.

"The true story of Camp David was that for the first time in the history of the conflict the American president put on the table a proposal, based on UN Security Council resolutions 242 and 338, very close to the Palestinian demands, and Arafat refused even to accept it as a basis for negotiations, walked out of the room, and deliberately turned to terrorism."

Yet, somehow he is still very much alive! BillZBubb May 2016 #1
Bill Clinton talking nonsense once again yourpaljoey May 2016 #2
And we see how successful he was scscholar May 2016 #3
the point is he tried Mosby May 2016 #5
sometimes I really wonder if the left would be happier ericson00 May 2016 #7
You think America's fawning reverence for Israel is about appealing to Jews? Scootaloo May 2016 #29
that reasoning only applies to republicans Mosby May 2016 #30
Lying asshole! catnhatnh May 2016 #4
you can criticize him for a lot of things Mosby May 2016 #6
He was a NAFTA humping republican catnhatnh May 2016 #8
nafta was a mistake, just like all the trade agreements Mosby May 2016 #9
But not voting for the Democrat in November is sick and insane. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #26
You mean improvements like this? ... Mika May 2016 #10
Whatever he did, it didn't help the Palestinians, Little Tich May 2016 #11
The Clinton Parameters map you say doesn't exist... shira May 2016 #12
The Clinton Parameters didn't come with a map, your map is only one of several interpretations of Little Tich May 2016 #14
That's a map from Dennis Ross who was actually there. n/t shira May 2016 #16
You have no idea what you are talking about oberliner May 2016 #20
So the Israelis came up with their 20 pages of objections after accepting the Parameters on Dec 31, Little Tich May 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars May 2016 #24
On the basis of the interpretative map Shira provided, Little Tich May 2016 #32
boo hoo. a longer drive. 6chars May 2016 #33
An offer so awfully bad that Arafat wished he had accepted it.... shira May 2016 #13
well if the Israeli offer was in earnest why didn't take Arafat up on this? azurnoir May 2016 #15
Make up your mind first. Was the offer shit or not shit? n/t shira May 2016 #17
I asked you a valid question my opinion of the offer which I haven't given isn't at issue here azurnoir May 2016 #18
Sharon was a rightwinger, so what do you expect? Besides, Olmert did one better.... shira May 2016 #19
so Sharon did not want peace? He broke away from Likud and started Kadema which we're told azurnoir May 2016 #21
Answer my last post and we can continue. I answered you. shira May 2016 #22
at the moment I have no opinion one way or the other about the offer-Arafat so we are told azurnoir May 2016 #23
Of course, denial. Here's the interview... shira May 2016 #27
I haven't ignored anything it seems your comment was an excuse to post an article about azurnoir May 2016 #31
That's hilarious. Scootaloo May 2016 #28
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