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In reply to the discussion: Calling Israel an apartheid state is an insult to black South Africans [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)68. WTF? The Methodist Church quoted from global BDS, ElectronicIntifada....
Last edited Sat May 14, 2016, 09:07 PM - Edit history (5)
....the type of BDS you say you're against. That's not just anti-settlements and fake "apartheid" but also against normalization b/w Israelis & Palestinians, support for 1-state with a vulnerable Jewish minority after full "right" of return. The same BDS that has proven over and over again to be a Jew hating, pro-Hamas movement.
Who are you trying to fool?
And there's not a single post explaining why the Apartheid analogy isn't valid...
It doesn't fit the description of Apartheid, that's why. Go with the detailed definition of Apartheid, not what BDS uses as a definition but the real one. Go on, provide us with the definition here if words have meaning to you. You'll find Israel doesn't fit the description so I doubt you'll want to provide a clear definition of apartheid that we can then use to judge all other nations, including all other democracies.
WRT Hillary, it's the same with Bernie and Obama. All oppose BDS on the grounds it's a hate movement.
Why pretend Hillary is different?
Here's the catch with Hillary and Zionists who you believe support settlements. We all here support 2 states which means the end of settlements. That goes for Hillary as well. When you say she's pro-settlements yet for 2 states, you don't know what you're blabbering on about. There can't be 2 states w/o an end to settlements.
Personally, I don't see why you are against settlements being that you, like BDS, favor 1-state after full-right-of-return. So what difference do the settlements make if that region - from Gaza to the W.Bank - is all one state? It makes no sense you're against settlements as that plays right into your plans.
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Calling Israel an apartheid state is an insult to black South Africans [View all]
ericson00
May 2016
OP
Now you're bringing up discrimination. BDS uses that fake list of 50 discriminatory laws....
shira
May 2016
#37
I only support the kind of BDS that Hillary Clinton is against - BDS against the occupation and
Little Tich
May 2016
#44
There is no such BDS movement. Who are the leaders of this movement who are not....
shira
May 2016
#46
Has their ever been a precedent in history of boycotting Jews or Jewish businesses in the world?
King_David
May 2016
#67
They are boycotting a country because they deem some of it's policies in violation of
Tony_FLADEM
May 2016
#69
So the homophobic gay hating filth government in the Palestinian statelet is supported
King_David
May 2016
#70
There is no Palestinian State and increasted settlements by another country in an georgraphic
Tony_FLADEM
May 2016
#72
If there is a lethal hate on Gays as there is in Palestine and Uganda and Islamic state and Iran
King_David
May 2016
#74
not according to Desmond Tutu moreover the author Leon Jamaine Mithi is currently a law student
azurnoir
May 2016
#8
Desmond Tutu an antisemite? but a guy who was around 3-5 yrs when Apartheid ended is
azurnoir
May 2016
#19
and some assume quite a bit don't they? However Tutu is South African and did actually live
azurnoir
May 2016
#24
I hope you can at least agree that antisemites' views on the Jewish state are irrelevant...
shira
May 2016
#29
I pointed out Desmond Tutu who lived under apartheid far longer than the author possibly could have
azurnoir
May 2016
#32
Quite a few S.Africans including Richard Goldstone call BS on Israeli apartheid claims.
shira
May 2016
#33
Good point. So let's dismiss both Tutu and Goldstone due to their prejudices. n/t
shira
May 2016
#50
Tutu did sentence anyone to anything nor can I find Goldstone saying anything about the term
azurnoir
May 2016
#51