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In reply to the discussion: The Double Nakba [View all]

aranthus

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4. The Palestinians need to recognize that they have the most responsibility.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:05 PM
May 2016

Last edited Wed May 18, 2016, 01:35 PM - Edit history (1)

They started the war that made them refugees and led to the occupation of their proposed state by their brother Arabs. There is no way that Israel can or should recognize any responsibility for the Nakhba, because it is a myth. It's wrong to admit something that isn't true, and it's especially wrong for Israel to admit to some lie that is part of a campaign to destroy it.

"Nakhba" doesn't mean merely that there are refugees (which every Israeli knows and admits) or even that Israel has some responsibility for the refugee problem (which many, if not most Israelis also know). Nakhba is the Arab understanding of the refugee problem. They mean that the Paestinians:

1. Are the innocent victims
2. Of the intentional expulsion of all of the refugees
3. Without which Israel could not have come into existence.

Each of those elements is false and as a whole they make up a gross lie about Israel and history. Why should Israel admit something that is so blatantly false? Especially when many or most of them readily admit the truth? And when the lie is part of a campaign to destroy the Jewish state?

The Double Nakba [View all] shira May 2016 OP
Yep King_David May 2016 #1
You know why, but still a good question. n/t aranthus May 2016 #2
Two wrongs don't make a right. Little Tich May 2016 #3
The Palestinians need to recognize that they have the most responsibility. aranthus May 2016 #4
Sigh. Little Tich May 2016 #5
You really need to read Morris in full. aranthus May 2016 #6
Morris indeed argues that it was justified to expel Palestinians. Little Tich May 2016 #7
So you would support the right of return aranthus May 2016 #8
Best the "refugees" integrate into the country's they were born in... King_David May 2016 #9
But then they could not be used as a weapon aranthus May 2016 #10
All of them should have that right. Little Tich May 2016 #18
I respect your consistency. aranthus May 2016 #19
Not so much so for those Europeans who have ancestors or who themselves were refugees. Little Tich May 2016 #21
Not really. aranthus May 2016 #22
I've met Germans who are still unhappy about their grandparents being expelled from from their homes Little Tich May 2016 #25
Neither the Turk or Greek side will allow refugees or their descendants.... shira May 2016 #23
Interestingly, Greece and Turkey did agree on a population exchange, which is an argument in your Little Tich May 2016 #24
Jews were expelled from the Arab countries as revenge for the Arabs being expelled from Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #11
Not a word of truth to this. aranthus May 2016 #12
According to Benny Morris they started expelling the Palestinian Arabs before the war started Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #14
No he doesn't say that. aranthus May 2016 #16
In my previous post I said the Palestinians started being expelled in 1947 Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #17
Completely wrong aranthus May 2016 #20
Did you make that up ? King_David May 2016 #13
Which part is made up? Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #15
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