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In reply to the discussion: Detroit Jews ask: Are settlement boycotts the same as BDS? [View all]FBaggins
(27,739 posts)42. Was that supposed to be responsive?
I point out that it isn't an authentic movement, but rather a slippery-slope tactic of the BDS movement... and your rebuttal is a link from a rabidly BDS organization? Were you trying to be entertaining or does it just come naturally?
I point out that many of those products are produced by Palestinian employees who benefit from the income. Your response doesn't even try to touch on this fact.
Lastly, I pointed out that most peace proposals assume land swaps that would put the vast majority of the population of the settlements into Israel proper. Did you think that you refuted this simple fact by claiming that the position wasn't unanimous? If so, you failed miserably.
and Netanyahu hasn't offered any swaps.
Untrue.
However, Palestinians have consistently stressed that any land swap must be equal in size and quality. The London-based Al-Quds Al-Arabi translated an Israeli report saying that the major disagreement between Palestinian and Israeli negotiators is the size and quality of the swap. According to this report, the gap between the two sides is huge. Israel wishes to annex nearly 10% of the West Bank, while Palestinians are open to a much smaller 3%. The Israeli report, originally published on the Hebrew-language website Walla News, says that the percentage is derived from the calls by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to include the Hebron and Beit El settlements. In January, AFP picked up an interview from Israeli radio in which Netanyahu said Israel would like to annex 13% of the West Bank. All these figures exclude Jerusalem.
According to UN resolutions and international law, they've got to go.
Also untrue. There's an argument to be made that they violate a number of international standards. At the same time, an easy argument can be made that the Palestinians have committed scores of war crimes and other violations of international standards themselves. You don't get to point at one side's violations and claim that it means that they give up everything.
That's why they're called peace negotiations.
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Fortunately, today there's the internet, and it's very good at unindoctrinating people.
Little Tich
May 2016
#2
No IMO it's that many proIsrael American already believe that the West Bank settlements
azurnoir
May 2016
#4
What an ignorant,sexist and in this case - homophobic thing to say on a progressive forum...
King_David
May 2016
#34
What an ignorant,sexist and in this case - homophobic thing to say on a progressive forum...
King_David
May 2016
#48
I have absolutely no idea WTF your talking about here and I assume you have absolutely no idea WTF
King_David
May 2016
#32
Adalah is a joke. We went over that already with their fictitious list of 50 discriminatory laws...
shira
May 2016
#16
Adalah's claims would make the Gregorian Calendar & Scandinavian flags discriminatory....
shira
May 2016
#24
I think that it would be more inclusive to include official references to Israel's Arab heritage and
Little Tich
May 2016
#49
The Christian Gregorian Calendar is not discriminatory, nor are Scandinavian flags....
shira
May 2016
#50
It seems to me that the offer to the Palestinians was just unspecified areas of desert:
Little Tich
May 2016
#46