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Tony_FLADEM

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17. In my previous post I said the Palestinians started being expelled in 1947
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:44 PM
May 2016

Causes of the first wave, December 1947 – March 1948

More specific to the causes Morris states: "The Arab evacuees from the towns and villages left largely because of Jewish ... attacks or fear of impending attack, and from a sense of vulnerability."[136]

He says Palestinians were attacked and this is why some of them left. Isn't that the same as expelling them? Why else were they attacked?

This happened in December *1947*

As I mentioned in my previous post the partition plan was unworkable. Palestinian Arabs numbered 900,000 and Jews numbered 300,000 so the Israeli side had an incentive to expel Arab Palestinians because of the disparity in population totals between the 2 sides.

Where and on what date did the Palestinians start the war?

The Irgun started it on 12/31/47 by attacking some Arab workers at an oil refinery. They and the Stern Gang were against partition so they attacked Arabs hoping to get revenge attacks which would escalate things and a wider conflict would be used as a means to attain more land which is what occurred.

In the Arab countries some Jews were happy where they were living and in other instances they were not. It depends on who you ask about that.




The Double Nakba [View all] shira May 2016 OP
Yep King_David May 2016 #1
You know why, but still a good question. n/t aranthus May 2016 #2
Two wrongs don't make a right. Little Tich May 2016 #3
The Palestinians need to recognize that they have the most responsibility. aranthus May 2016 #4
Sigh. Little Tich May 2016 #5
You really need to read Morris in full. aranthus May 2016 #6
Morris indeed argues that it was justified to expel Palestinians. Little Tich May 2016 #7
So you would support the right of return aranthus May 2016 #8
Best the "refugees" integrate into the country's they were born in... King_David May 2016 #9
But then they could not be used as a weapon aranthus May 2016 #10
All of them should have that right. Little Tich May 2016 #18
I respect your consistency. aranthus May 2016 #19
Not so much so for those Europeans who have ancestors or who themselves were refugees. Little Tich May 2016 #21
Not really. aranthus May 2016 #22
I've met Germans who are still unhappy about their grandparents being expelled from from their homes Little Tich May 2016 #25
Neither the Turk or Greek side will allow refugees or their descendants.... shira May 2016 #23
Interestingly, Greece and Turkey did agree on a population exchange, which is an argument in your Little Tich May 2016 #24
Jews were expelled from the Arab countries as revenge for the Arabs being expelled from Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #11
Not a word of truth to this. aranthus May 2016 #12
According to Benny Morris they started expelling the Palestinian Arabs before the war started Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #14
No he doesn't say that. aranthus May 2016 #16
In my previous post I said the Palestinians started being expelled in 1947 Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #17
Completely wrong aranthus May 2016 #20
Did you make that up ? King_David May 2016 #13
Which part is made up? Tony_FLADEM May 2016 #15
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