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In reply to the discussion: Thirty one countries adopt working definition of antisemitism [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)34. But not because of anything Atzmon wrote or said which is clear hate towards Jews.
What do you think he actually means when he claims that burning down a Synagogue could be seen as a rational act?
I think neo-nazi. What the hell do you think? Inconclusive? Maybe anti-Israel? That's pure insanity.
Now I ask you, what do you think about the claim that burning down a Mosque can be seen as a rational act?
Anyway, you're making it difficult for me by bringing up Atzmon, because in order to explain my own view on him, I have to practically defend him - and I don't even like him...
You are defending his hate incitement (burning down a synagogue) right now.
Atzmon alleged that democracy and tolerance are "foreign to the spirit of Jewishness."
You're defending that. I'm a Jew and so are many of my friends and family. That's an attack on all of us, as surely as stating that democracy and tolerance is foreign to the spirit of Islam (referring to all Muslims). That's the type of incitement and filth you defend.
In the article, he posits that Israel benefits from anti-Semitism because it engenders global support for Israel and that Israel therefore engages in behavior toward Palestinians that will spur anti-Semitic reactions, a phenomenon he calls "the Zionist perpetuum mobile."
IOW, antisemitism is the Jews fault and we are deliberately inciting others to attack us. Same attack on Jews as Mahmoud Abbas who claims Zionist Jews allied with Hitler and were therefore responsible for the Holocaust. This is really vile, gutter antisemitism that you refuse to see.
Atzmon alleged that "Jews were responsible for the killing of Jesus" and that Jewish outrage in response to the deicide charge only served to further prove their accountability.
You cannot even see the antisemitic incitement in this. That claim is as bad as stating Muslims are responsible for 911 and terrorism and any Muslim outrage in response to that charge serves as further proof of their accountability. You're deliberately blind to "antipathy and racism against Jews", your very own definition. You have a clear double-standard that allows you to see that very same hate against all other peoples - except Jews. It's THAT double standard - that pinpoint demonization of Jews only that is antisemitic.
QED.
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millions of Semites are not Jews OR Israelites. anti-semite can be applied to persons who are
msongs
May 2016
#4
Again with this bullshit... Anti-semitism by definition is hatred of Jews. Any definition.
shira
May 2016
#5
I'm apparently an anti-Semite according to at least 8 of the IHRA criteria.
Little Tich
May 2016
#11
I'm not so sure that the same countries that ditched the EU working definition of anti-Semitism
Little Tich
May 2016
#14
I'm not really sure who's downplaying the bombing of a synagogue as mere anti-Israel criticism.
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#30
Oops, I think you misunderstand me - the bombing of a synagogue in Germany was an anti-Semitic act.
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#36
Jewish trolls are now being accused of pulling fast one w/ this working definition...
shira
May 2016
#16
I suspect you don't give a rat's arse about the very real dangers of extending the definition of
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#18
That old definition blinded you into thinking Gilad Atzmon's criticism was legit.
shira
Jun 2016
#24
But not because of anything Atzmon wrote or said which is clear hate towards Jews.
shira
Jun 2016
#34
For me it's pretty clear that Atzmon is referring to the idea that burning a synagogue is considered
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#41
Even more Atzmon - Holocaust Denial - that didn't faze you according to your warped definition....
shira
Jun 2016
#25
Your subjective old definition of Jew hatred led to you defending Mahmoud Abbas....
shira
Jun 2016
#26
"Unlike Netanyahu, Abbas has understood the truth about the Holocaust, and the horrible accusation
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#28
What truth does Abbas understand? All he said was that the Shoah was horrible....
shira
Jun 2016
#35
I firmly believe that bringing up historical anecdotes in a contemporary political context is a
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#58
But the Mufti is not the people. You make it seem like any criticism of the Mufti...
shira
Jun 2016
#60
I would say that Netanyahu's attempt to shift the blame for the Holocaust from the Nazis to someone
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#57
The next day after the Mufti/Hitler meeting, Heydrich sent out invites to Wannsee....
shira
Jun 2016
#62
Keep digging... Netanyahu's arguments don't get more appealing by you proving that he's using
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#63
Unsubstantiated sources? I just presented facts in that last post you don't like....
shira
Jun 2016
#64