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13. Good advice shira .....
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 05:40 AM
Jun 2016
'There was no generous offer': A history of peace talks

http://972mag.com/on-palestinian-positions-israeli-pundits-are-all-spin/90137/

For 26 years, Abbas has presented the same set of conditions for a permanent agreement. A Palestinian state established on the pre-1967 lines with its capital in East Jerusalem, and a mutually agreed upon resolution to the issue of the refugees. That is the price. He has not moved a fraction of an inch since 1988. Those are the conditions he presented in Oslo in 1993 and that’s what was on the table during a series of talks that took place when Ariel Sharon was foreign minister during Netanyahu’s first term as prime minister in the 1990s (is there anyone who even remembers those talks? There was a meeting-and-a-half or so). That was Abbas’s position at Camp David in 2000, at Taba in January 2011, and at Annapolis in 2007. The Palestinian position has consistently been that Israel would take 2-to-4 percent of the West Bank and compensate them for every yard of territory. In the eyes of the Palestinians, this is a huge concession compared to what was granted them under the partition agreement of 1947, and in light of their historical rights. You can agree or you can disagree, but that is their price and apparently there is no way to maneuver around it.
"....virtually no discussion at all about the needs of the Palestinian people...." democrank Jun 2016 #1
They need better leadership committed to peace and 2 states. That's their need. shira Jun 2016 #3
So do the Israelis. truebluegreen Jun 2016 #4
The Israelis have already offered to end the occupation/settlements multiple times.... shira Jun 2016 #5
Talking about now, not truebluegreen Jun 2016 #6
The situation now is that the PLO is refusing to go back to the negotiations they walked out of Fozzledick Jun 2016 #7
What's Sanders going to do to force Hamas & the PA to agree to any peace deal? shira Jun 2016 #2
Israel could offer a viable Palestinian state for starters. Little Tich Jun 2016 #8
They already have offered all that. You're defending the PA/Hamas for rejection.... shira Jun 2016 #10
Funny, I don't remember any Israeli offer that would remove the settlements and the occupation... n/ Little Tich Jun 2016 #11
The 2001 and 2008 offers would do just that. Know your history. n/t shira Jun 2016 #12
Good advice shira ..... Israeli Jun 2016 #13
There's the 2008 Olmert offer, which you supported. shira Jun 2016 #14
Asked and answered already shira ..... Israeli Jun 2016 #15
A poor excuse for Abbas. The world would've backed the deal... shira Jun 2016 #16
Well its his excuse and he is sticking to it ...... Israeli Jun 2016 #17
Seems Herzog's plan is about the same as Olmert's. shira Jun 2016 #18
No I dont agree shira . Israeli Jun 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #9
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