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sabbat hunter

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11. To me Israel has a few choices
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:47 PM
Sep 2016

1) unilaterally withdraw from the WB, with the exception of Jerusalem, take all the settlers with them and say "here you go PA, govern your land". Build whatever the want between that territory and Israel, and control who is allowed in to Israel.
2) Annex all of the West Bank, give everyone there full Israeli citizenship.
3) Status quo.
4) Negotiate at any cost with the PA for an agreement.
5) actually negotiate with the PA, and mean it.

Problems with each
1) the right wing, especially Jewish Home, yisrael beiteinu, would be up in arms over this. But if a moderate government can be formed, they probably can be silenced. It would require Zionist Union, Kulanu, Meretz, Yesh Atid to run one united front. Even then might need help from some of the Arab parties to form a coalition and implement this plan.
2) A one state solution, giving all Arabs in the WB Israeli citizenship, will likely mean that Israel becomes a majority Arab state in the near future.
3) Untenable. The situation there is not good and is bad politically for Israel from an international viewpoint
4) not going to happen. PA wants full RoR (which would destroy Israel as we know it)
5) the most likely option. Would require new leadership in Israel (probably from a grand coalition that excludes the religious and far right wing parties, but includes Zionist Union, Likud, Kulanu, Yesh Atid, and possibly, Meretz. It would also require Abbas to be gone, as he is corrupt and does not really desire peace as it would kill his stealing of money for his own use from the PA (just like Arafat before him). An eventual peace plan will require Israel withdrawing from 90% of the WB, with the exception of Jerusalem, and making sure that the WB state of Palestine is a continuous region, with no enclaves of Israeli power. Ideally, settlers livign there would stay, under Palestinian rule, or be compensated monetarily to leave and go back to Israel. RoR for Palestinians would be handled with allowing a token number of Palestinians into israel, (read few thousand), rest compensated monetarily. Jews thrown out of Arab countries would also be compensated. Jerusalem would remain in Israeli hands (with the Temple mount controlled by Islamic authorities). Under no plan was Jerusalem supposed to be a part of Palestine, I see no reason this should change.

+1 And, cue a variation of the popular song: "Send in the haters, they're here." nt jonno99 Sep 2016 #1
Well articulated & correct. Of course, enemies of the Jews would argue otherwise.... shira Sep 2016 #2
So what? aranthus Sep 2016 #3
The problem with your argument Mosby Sep 2016 #4
History should inform the present, not control it. aranthus Sep 2016 #5
The author of the OP hasn't read the relevant part of the Geneva convention about an occupier Little Tich Sep 2016 #6
Since Geneva IV doesn't apply to other occupations/settlements globally... shira Sep 2016 #7
Wow, that's a pretty big bag of pick'n mix of different situations... Little Tich Sep 2016 #8
Nah - they're all occupations, all population transfers, "settlers". Enough denial. shira Sep 2016 #9
Too much of a leap of faith, I'm afraid - I still think that you should be able to actually prove Little Tich Sep 2016 #12
It's more proof than any of the idiotic anti-Israel narratives... shira Sep 2016 #14
Enjoy your apartheid state while you have it. geek tragedy Sep 2016 #10
Every citizen of Israel has the same rights regardless of race, religion, or ethnicity oberliner Sep 2016 #19
Liberal democracies don't practice apartheid geek tragedy Sep 2016 #20
Right, and neither does Israel - even in the W.Bank. Give it up. n/t shira Sep 2016 #21
Yes it does shira .... Israeli Sep 2016 #23
"Jewish Only Roads" is a lie, so why keep posting this shit? n/t shira Sep 2016 #25
2008 shira ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #24
Hmmm....a road Israelis use that Palestinians cannot is not Apartheid. shira Sep 2016 #26
Agreed oberliner Sep 2016 #28
To me Israel has a few choices sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #11
The problem is Israel negotiating with a Palestinian leadership... shira Sep 2016 #15
What is your solution sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #27
There's always something that can be done; not that it will result in peace. shira Sep 2016 #29
If they don't negotiate with sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #30
Right, it's basically hopeless. n/t shira Sep 2016 #32
Oded Ravivi ???? !!!!!........ Israeli Sep 2016 #13
The author could be Uri Avnery. Facts are facts. n/t shira Sep 2016 #16
Come on ....now you are being extremely silly shira ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #17
I don't think you got the point. I know Avnery didn't write that.... shira Sep 2016 #18
LOL ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #22
Why should any part sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #31
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