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17. Come on ....now you are being extremely silly shira .....
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:06 PM
Sep 2016



THE BACKGROUND of this affair concerns the very foundation of the Israel-Palestine conflict.
Since the Six-day War of 1967, Israel has been occupying, among other territories, the area called by the Arabs, many Israelis and most of the rest of the world "the West Bank" (of the Jordan river) and by the Israeli government and right-wing Israelis "Judea and Samaria", their Biblical appellation.

Almost since the beginning of the occupation, the Israeli right-wing has been making strenuous efforts to "settle the land" – putting up Jewish settlements, towns, villages and small "outposts" all over the place.

To whom do the lands, on which the settlements are built, officially belong?

Much of it was "government land". This goes back to the Ottoman Empire. Communal land reserves, which did not belong to individual fellahin (farmers) but to the entire village, were registered in the name of the Sultan. Under the British "Government of Palestine" it became "government land". When the Israeli army occupied the territory, the Israel government just laid its hands on all these properties. Which means that this land is now being held solely for the benefit of Jewish settlers.

Other areas of land were simply expropriated by the military government for "security reasons" or "public purposes" - and then turned over to the settlers.

Many of these settlements are manifestly illegal, even according to the Israeli law prevailing in these areas. But the law is very rarely applied. The Israeli military government, the army and the police quite openly support the settlements, protect them and connect them to Israeli grids. The courts very rarely intervene.

Yet what about settlements which are being set up on privately-owned Arab lands? Ah, there's the rub. All possible and impossible tricks have been used to take them over. Among them, the use of false documents, false signatures, often of dead owners. But the most common method is the use of Arab middlemen.

FOR THE Palestinian people, this is an existential struggle. The Israeli Right, which now dominates the government, does not hide its vision of a country free of Palestinian Arabs ("Araberrein" in German). The vision of the entire country settled by Jews, with no one else around, has strong attractions for some, especially in religious circles.

The settlers and their allies have created an entire network for "legal" land acquisition. They approach an Arab owner and offer hugely inflated prices for his land. The money comes from Jewish billionaires in the United States or from secret government funds. The Arab owner is sorely tempted. He wants to sell and run away with the money. But he is afraid of his neighbors and of Palestinian fanatics.


Source : http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1452867180
+1 And, cue a variation of the popular song: "Send in the haters, they're here." nt jonno99 Sep 2016 #1
Well articulated & correct. Of course, enemies of the Jews would argue otherwise.... shira Sep 2016 #2
So what? aranthus Sep 2016 #3
The problem with your argument Mosby Sep 2016 #4
History should inform the present, not control it. aranthus Sep 2016 #5
The author of the OP hasn't read the relevant part of the Geneva convention about an occupier Little Tich Sep 2016 #6
Since Geneva IV doesn't apply to other occupations/settlements globally... shira Sep 2016 #7
Wow, that's a pretty big bag of pick'n mix of different situations... Little Tich Sep 2016 #8
Nah - they're all occupations, all population transfers, "settlers". Enough denial. shira Sep 2016 #9
Too much of a leap of faith, I'm afraid - I still think that you should be able to actually prove Little Tich Sep 2016 #12
It's more proof than any of the idiotic anti-Israel narratives... shira Sep 2016 #14
Enjoy your apartheid state while you have it. geek tragedy Sep 2016 #10
Every citizen of Israel has the same rights regardless of race, religion, or ethnicity oberliner Sep 2016 #19
Liberal democracies don't practice apartheid geek tragedy Sep 2016 #20
Right, and neither does Israel - even in the W.Bank. Give it up. n/t shira Sep 2016 #21
Yes it does shira .... Israeli Sep 2016 #23
"Jewish Only Roads" is a lie, so why keep posting this shit? n/t shira Sep 2016 #25
2008 shira ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #24
Hmmm....a road Israelis use that Palestinians cannot is not Apartheid. shira Sep 2016 #26
Agreed oberliner Sep 2016 #28
To me Israel has a few choices sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #11
The problem is Israel negotiating with a Palestinian leadership... shira Sep 2016 #15
What is your solution sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #27
There's always something that can be done; not that it will result in peace. shira Sep 2016 #29
If they don't negotiate with sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #30
Right, it's basically hopeless. n/t shira Sep 2016 #32
Oded Ravivi ???? !!!!!........ Israeli Sep 2016 #13
The author could be Uri Avnery. Facts are facts. n/t shira Sep 2016 #16
Come on ....now you are being extremely silly shira ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #17
I don't think you got the point. I know Avnery didn't write that.... shira Sep 2016 #18
LOL ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #22
Why should any part sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #31
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