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In reply to the discussion: Why Anti-Zionists Who Say They Aren’t Anti-Semitic Usually Are [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)12. I used your criteria & proved it, but let's compare. Here's Gideon Levy...
It starts from the beginning, as the title is an attack on the Jewish people. Here's Levy claiming Jewish superiority.
Jewish People Are Just That, People, and Far From Chosen
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-people-are-just-that-people-and-far-from-chosen-1.388870
At the basis of Israeli arrogance lies the idea that this really is a special nation with special traits that are shared by no other nation. You can see that among Israeli travelers abroad; you can hear it from anyone who comes into contact with foreigners; you can sense it in the deeper currents of Israeli policy. The Americans are "foolish," the Indians are "primitive," the Germans are "square," the Chinese are "strange," the Scandinavians are "naive," the Italians are "clowns" and the Arabs are ... Arabs. Only we know what's good for us, and not only for us but for the entire world. There is nothing like Israeli ingenuity, there is nothing similar to Jewish intelligence, the Jewish brain invents new ideas for us like no other brain, because we're the best, bro.
Clear genetic superiority. Accusing the Jewish people of unconscionable racism....
...how many Nobel Prizes "we" have won, and where that places us relative to the size of the population. The list of Jewish Nobel laureates throughout the generations is immediately put on display, as though saying that they won because they were Jewish. Every prize that is added to the collection immediately reinforces the idea that it's a matter of clear genetic superiority. That is the other side of racism - on the one hand, trampling the other; on the other, we praise and exalt the "chosen people" above everyone else. Two sides of the same coin: unconscionable racism.
The next one starts with the title as well. Don't let "Israelis" fool you because as you read on, it's clearly an attack on all Jews - all chosen people - certainly not Israel's Arab population. Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for acts committed by a single Jewish person or group is straight-up antisemitism, just as it would be accusing the Palestinian people as a whole of being terrorists.
All Israelis Are Guilty of Setting a Palestinian Family on Fire
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.669005
At the end of a terrible day, it is this that leads to the burning of families whom God did not choose. No principle in Israeli society is more destructive, or more dangerous, than this principle. Nor, unfortunately, more common. If you were to examine closely what is concealed beneath the skin of most Israelis, you would find: the chosen people. When that is a fundamental principle, the next torching is only a matter of time.
And then there's the incitement. Calling for or justifying the killing or harming of Jews - like Hamas or Fatah does - is incitement, just as much as it would be if against Palestinians.
For Israelis, There's Terror, and Then There's Terror
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.710588
The second kind, Palestinian terror, is criminal in its methods but justified in its cause. There is no connection between the man who committed suicide in Brussels Metro and the youth who stabs Israelis at Damascus Gate. A thousand speeches by Benjamin Netanyahu at AIPAC wont confuse decent people. Palestinian terror is the resort of those who have no choice, a tool of the weak to gain their more-than-justified goals.
From the first sentence above, Gideon Levy argues Palestinian terror is justified. This isn't merely describing "cause and effect" as you like to portray it. It's not saying the Palestinians are even wrong for believing terror is justified. Levy actually believes it and is making an argument for it!
FFS, what else is needed for the penny to drop here?
Its true that this kind of terror also hurts innocent people brutally. Its means are similar too. Palestinians attacked planes when Osama Bin Laden was still a business administration student in King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, and Palestinian suicide terrorists preceded ISIS. But all this cannot cover up the difference: ISISs goals are insane, the Palestinians goals are justified.
Again, the Palestinian' goals are justified. How is this not a justification of terror?
What would you say to a Gazan youngster hesitating whether to join the resistance? Is there any point to his life and any chance for his future if he and his colleagues bow their heads submissively before their jailers? Is there anyone, in Israel or the rest of the world, who would remember their existence without the violent resistance that is tagged as terrorism? And their brothers in the West Bank violence may not have given them any real achievements, but at least it raised their issue and put it on the agenda.
See? Without violence, who would know of the Palestinians? It's justified, Levy is telling you!
Lets be honest about it: Had the Palestinians not hijacked airplanes in the early '70s, would anyone in the world know about their disaster? Be interested in their fate? True, nothing has been solved since then, but this is despite their desperate resort to terror, not because of it.
That's justification.
Israel has given the Palestinians and the Arab world a fateful lesson it understands only force. Only force got Israel to return Sinai, only force led it to the Oslo talks, only by force will the Palestinian problem be solved. This force, in the case of people who have no army or air force, is terror.
It's only by force that Israel learns. That's Hamas and Hezbollah's motto.
The first 20 years of occupation, during which there was little terror, passed pleasantly, so it occurred to nobody to give the Palestinians even a few of their rights. Terror put these rights onto the agenda. Because of the first intifada, they reached Oslo.
You getting the picture yet, Tich? Only by terror can the Palestinians achieve their goals. In no way is Levy hinting this is wrong-headed.
The second intifada, which was more savage, brought disaster on them they lost some of the worlds sympathy and some of the sympathy toward them in Israel. But terror was and remained their only weapon. They have no other. Even if they destroy their entire shabby weapons arsenal and swear to walk in the light of Mahatma Gandhi, they have no chance of getting what is theirs without terror.
Again and again and again, terror against Jews is justified by Levy.
Levy is a racist and you know it. And that's just Gideon Levy. There are plenty more odious Jew haters within the BDS movement.
Why don't you try making your case for Isi Liebler, since you wrote he's racist? We can then compare.
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I'm opposed to Zionism because I'm against all forms of nationalism that promote ethnic superiority
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#3
I don't like the thought of Jewish people having to keep a packed suitcase under their beds, just in
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#26
What do u disagree with? You know what antisemitism is while no one else does? n/t
shira
Oct 2016
#6
The "new" definition of anti-Semitism that includes criticism of Israel as a form of anti-Semitism
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#7
I don't think that my views on what constitutes racism differs from the average person
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#9
In addition to Caroline Glick at the Jerusalem Post, I'll provide an example from the Israeli Minist
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#14
For defining racism, I'll just go with "feelings of antipathy towards an ethnic group"...
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#21
Your definition that racism only includes racial groups is too narrow in scope and completely
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#23