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shira

(30,109 posts)
16. What's racist is that your dissolving of the Jewish state leads to dead Jews.
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 04:56 AM
Oct 2016

Last edited Sun Oct 9, 2016, 05:58 AM - Edit history (2)

Jews may live as long as the majority Palestinian population (after RoR) allows Jews to live as a minority in Israel. That hasn't worked out well for Jews in Europe, either before the Holocaust or even now in the 21st century. Newsflash: Jews aren't feeling very safe in Europe these days. Antisemitism is on the rise again. Jews are targets there once again. (Not that anti-zionist racists care or are doing anything about it).

But as bad as Europe is, it's about 100x worse in the Arab middle east. Things haven't worked out well for the minority of Jews in Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan....where the number of remaining Jews is now minuscule or zero due to racism & violence against Jews. I'm sure you're aware of this.

So that's what's racist about your views.

You want Jews to live under the whim & mercy of others. Sorry, but the Jews cannot afford to trust anyone (whether Europeans, American, or Palestinian) to protect them. You want to pretend in your delusions that facts & history play absolutely no role in any of this. That Jews have nothing to worry about. But look at Europe's Jews. Look at the few Jews remaining within the rest of the Arab world. That's what you want to consign Jews to. You want to pretend that's okay. That Jews have it good enough in Europe & the Arab world. You declare that this is as good as it gets for Jews. To go back to pre-Holocaust conditions without a state of their own. That they do not deserve to control their destiny, their own homeland. Nope. Never again.

So yeah - your view on RoR is racist. How am I wrong?

As an athiest... kristopher Oct 2016 #1
It's more than that. aranthus Oct 2016 #2
Good point. Giving up a nation's sovereignty peacefully is absurd & unheard of. shira Oct 2016 #17
I'm opposed to Zionism because I'm against all forms of nationalism that promote ethnic superiority Little Tich Oct 2016 #3
What's racist is actively opposing Jewish nationalism & no other. n/t shira Oct 2016 #5
What's racist is that your dissolving of the Jewish state leads to dead Jews. shira Oct 2016 #16
London's Ultra Orthodox Jews run daily gauntlet of anti-Semitic abuse shira Oct 2016 #25
I don't like the thought of Jewish people having to keep a packed suitcase under their beds, just in Little Tich Oct 2016 #26
You don't like the thought but that's the situation you prefer for Israeli Jews. shira Oct 2016 #27
Maybe I shouldn't do this, but... Little Tich Oct 2016 #4
What do u disagree with? You know what antisemitism is while no one else does? n/t shira Oct 2016 #6
The "new" definition of anti-Semitism that includes criticism of Israel as a form of anti-Semitism Little Tich Oct 2016 #7
You're a self-appointed expert on racism. Everyone else is dumb... shira Oct 2016 #8
I don't think that my views on what constitutes racism differs from the average person Little Tich Oct 2016 #9
I used your definition to prove writings from Mondoweiss & Gideon Levy.... shira Oct 2016 #10
You have only proved to yourself that those writings were racist. Little Tich Oct 2016 #11
I used your criteria & proved it, but let's compare. Here's Gideon Levy... shira Oct 2016 #12
I challenge you to find someone at JPost more racist & vile than Gideon Levy. shira Oct 2016 #13
In addition to Caroline Glick at the Jerusalem Post, I'll provide an example from the Israeli Minist Little Tich Oct 2016 #14
Not to defend Glick, but how is this at all racist? aranthus Oct 2016 #20
For defining racism, I'll just go with "feelings of antipathy towards an ethnic group"... Little Tich Oct 2016 #21
For defining racism I go with a dictionary. aranthus Oct 2016 #22
Your definition that racism only includes racial groups is too narrow in scope and completely Little Tich Oct 2016 #23
It's the dictionary's definition, not mine. aranthus Oct 2016 #24
Before I respond to your examples, do we agree Gideon Levy is racist? shira Oct 2016 #15
Oops, seems like I forgot about Gideon Levy. Little Tich Oct 2016 #18
How is Glick worse than Levy? Explain by comparison please. n/t shira Oct 2016 #19
Rabbi Sacks on Antizionism = Antisemitism... shira Oct 2016 #28
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