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Showing Original Post only (View all)Jews Do Not ‘Occupy’ Their Own Homeland [View all]
This has nothing to do with the bible.
This is about historical fact & indigenous rights.
The Roman historian Tacitus wrote about the Jews. In 109 CE. About Jerusalem. About the Jewish Temple, that existed. About Judaea. He was not Jewish. He wasnt biblical. He was an external source of testimony...
...As Rivkah Fishman-Duker has written:
It truly is quite clear. Genuine actual history has Jerusalem as the capital city of the Jews in their homeland called Judaea and within which stood a Temple surrounded by a wall and no mosque. Arabs were their neighbors in another country. And the Romans were a foreign occupier who occupied Jewish land.
Jews do not occupy Judaea. Jews are not occupiers of their own homeland.
...As Rivkah Fishman-Duker has written:
For ancient Greek and Roman pagan authors, Jerusalem definitely was a Jewish city. This article draws on references to Jerusalem from nearly twenty different sources, dating from the third century BCE to the third century CE, which are included in the late Professor Menahem Sterns comprehensive anthology, Greek and Latin Authors on Jews and Judaism. An examination of these texts indicates the unanimous agreement that Jerusalem was Jewish by virtue of the fact that its inhabitants were Jews, it was founded by Jews and the Temple, located in Jerusalem, was the center of the Jewish religion. In these sources, Jerusalem appears in several contexts: foundation narratives, descriptions of and links to the Temple, historical events, usually relating to invasions and captures of the city, physical descriptions, and the derogatory use of the term Solyma by Roman writers after its destruction by Titus in 70 CE. It is noteworthy that despite the negative views of Jews and Judaism expressed by authors such as Manetho, Apion, Tacitus and Juvenal, the Jewish identity of Jerusalem is always clear and never a subject of dispute. These ancient texts, therefore, disprove recent attempts by Muslims and others to deny the historic connection of the Jewish people to Jerusalem and the location of the Temple in Jerusalem through fabrications and lies.
It truly is quite clear. Genuine actual history has Jerusalem as the capital city of the Jews in their homeland called Judaea and within which stood a Temple surrounded by a wall and no mosque. Arabs were their neighbors in another country. And the Romans were a foreign occupier who occupied Jewish land.
Jews do not occupy Judaea. Jews are not occupiers of their own homeland.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-do-not-occupy-their-own-homeland/
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There was a lot of Arab immigration into Palestine. Ever heard of Robert Kennedy?
shira
Oct 2016
#32
William Ziff's 1937 Rape of Palestine shows mass immigration during British occupation....
shira
Nov 2016
#38
You've learned what? You're still a fan of the discredited admitted revisionist Pappe.
shira
Nov 2016
#60
There are already people who have lived for generations on the land. Most of them are not jewish.
pennylane100
Oct 2016
#15
Does every ethnicity/nationality have a claim to the land where they lived 2,000-odd years ago?
malchickiwick
Oct 2016
#9
Not at all. Do you advocate acknowledging those rights only selectively? n/t
malchickiwick
Oct 2016
#14
Don't the Palestinians also have indigenous rights? Palestinians = Philistines,
malchickiwick
Oct 2016
#33
No one is arguing they don't, only that the Jews aren't thieves, colonists, occupiers. N/T
shira
Nov 2016
#37
If you're worried about discrimination then you should oppose racist efforts to deny Jews' rights...
shira
Nov 2016
#67
As to everyone living in their ancestral homeland, Palestinians in Gaza, W.Bank, Jordan....
shira
Nov 2016
#68
But Tich, you ethnically discriminate all the time, not wanting Jews in the W.Bank....
shira
Nov 2016
#79
Well they do, but that's off the table b/c as Jews they're not allowed to live there....
shira
Nov 2016
#83
the history of the israelites make it very clear how they came to "own" judea nt
msongs
Oct 2016
#17