Israel/Palestine

sabbat hunter

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21. There is no

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 07:00 PM

Oct 2016

political continuity for Palestinians either. There never has been an independent state of Palestine. It was a providence of other countries. No political continuity there either.

And there have been Jews living in Israel since ancient times.

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Jews Do Not ‘Occupy’ Their Own Homeland [View all] shira Oct 2016 OP

Times of Israel? Jason1961 Oct 2016 #1

Nice Trumpian pivot elias7 Oct 2016 #3

It's about indigenous rights. UNESCO just denied Jewish indigenous rights. shira Oct 2016 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Oct 2016 #25

Some are, sure. And? n/t shira Oct 2016 #26

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There was a lot of Arab immigration into Palestine. Ever heard of Robert Kennedy? shira Oct 2016 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #35

William Ziff's 1937 Rape of Palestine shows mass immigration during British occupation.... shira Nov 2016 #38

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What a total load. aranthus Nov 2016 #49

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Like Ilan Pappe? aranthus Nov 2016 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #58

What would be the point? aranthus Nov 2016 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #64

But you were willingly fooled by Illan Pappe, an admitted revisionist & liar. shira Nov 2016 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #56

You acknowledged he was discredited with an "oops". Did u "forget"? shira Nov 2016 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #62

Pappe defended Katz's lies about Nazi style executions proven to be a hoax.... shira Nov 2016 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #54

You've learned what? You're still a fan of the discredited admitted revisionist Pappe. shira Nov 2016 #60

So you believe Winston Churchill & Bobby Kennedy deliberately lied, right? shira Nov 2016 #61

Dom't Worry. I think most of got the point of your post. bitterross Nov 2016 #76

Very interesting & informative. Thanks for posting. nt jonno99 Oct 2016 #2

If it's the jewish homeland, why do the Palestinians live there? DetlefK Oct 2016 #5

Why can't it be the homeland of 2 peoples? Why are just Jews seen as thieves.... shira Oct 2016 #6

^^^ THIS! x1000^^^ nt jonno99 Oct 2016 #8

Maybe because they took up those positions with such alacrity, yeah? procon Oct 2016 #18

Two peoples, one homeland, but they are not the same. DetlefK Oct 2016 #20

There is no sabbat hunter Oct 2016 #21

I know that, but Shira asked about perception. DetlefK Oct 2016 #23

If the Jews want to get rid of the Arabs, they're doing a terrible job. shira Nov 2016 #40

Well, I guess we will all have to leave pennylane100 Oct 2016 #7

Where do you see an argument for anyone leaving? shira Oct 2016 #12

There are already people who have lived for generations on the land. Most of them are not jewish. pennylane100 Oct 2016 #15

People could live generations on some land but not be indigenous. shira Oct 2016 #27

Does every ethnicity/nationality have a claim to the land where they lived 2,000-odd years ago? malchickiwick Oct 2016 #9

We're talking indigenous rights. Jews are indigenous there according... shira Oct 2016 #11

Not at all. Do you advocate acknowledging those rights only selectively? n/t malchickiwick Oct 2016 #14

No, I don't but I wonder why so many on this thread.... shira Oct 2016 #28

Don't the Palestinians also have indigenous rights? Palestinians = Philistines, malchickiwick Oct 2016 #33

No one is arguing they don't, only that the Jews aren't thieves, colonists, occupiers. N/T shira Nov 2016 #37

My Cannanite forbears disagree. CanadaexPat Oct 2016 #10

Can you prove you're in any way Canaanite? shira Oct 2016 #13

So now all non jews must provide pedigrees? pennylane100 Oct 2016 #16

You claimed to be Canaanite. Problem is you don't know a thing... shira Oct 2016 #29

Try to keep up with the conversation, pennylane100 Oct 2016 #34

Seems like youare sabbat hunter Nov 2016 #52

Again, that wwas not ny poat pennylane100 Nov 2016 #53

Jews probably sabbat hunter Oct 2016 #22

Almost certainly. aranthus Nov 2016 #43

I don't think you can go by language sabbat hunter Nov 2016 #44

True, you can't go by language alone, aranthus Nov 2016 #50

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If you're worried about discrimination then you should oppose racist efforts to deny Jews' rights... shira Nov 2016 #67

As to everyone living in their ancestral homeland, Palestinians in Gaza, W.Bank, Jordan.... shira Nov 2016 #68

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Jews aren't allowed in Jordan which was part of Palestine... shira Nov 2016 #74

We've had this discussion before. aranthus Nov 2016 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #70

No, I'm an anti-racist. aranthus Nov 2016 #72

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For argument's sake, let's say the claims are identical b/w the 2 peoples... shira Nov 2016 #75

Leaving aside the utter foolishness of your position aranthus Nov 2016 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #78

But Tich, you ethnically discriminate all the time, not wanting Jews in the W.Bank.... shira Nov 2016 #79

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Well they do, but that's off the table b/c as Jews they're not allowed to live there.... shira Nov 2016 #83

See, you think that having a country is discrimnation. aranthus Nov 2016 #80

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She wasn't aware Jews just might want to live over the Jordan River... shira Nov 2016 #84

Ideologically addled. n/t aranthus Nov 2016 #85

the history of the israelites make it very clear how they came to "own" judea nt msongs Oct 2016 #17

Just like countless other people they conquerored it. Leontius Oct 2016 #19

+1000. n/t shira Nov 2016 #42

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It's a response to UNESCO's obvious racism. There's nothing racist.... shira Oct 2016 #30

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LoL. You see what you want to see, still denying UNESCO's blatant racism. shira Nov 2016 #39

Do u think it's racist to view Jews as colonists or thieves & not indigenous? shira Nov 2016 #41

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