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In reply to the discussion: What doesn't add-up for me [View all]OnTheOtherHand
(7,621 posts)64. "None of us have any evidence for anything!"
I don't get it. If that's your attitude, in what sense do you even have an opinion about any aspect of 9/11?
You've made websites to try to debunk the non believers even.
You have convinced no one that I have seen but yet you and others are always here. Always one or the other, is here to defend the official story and discredit any dissent.
You have convinced no one that I have seen but yet you and others are always here. Always one or the other, is here to defend the official story and discredit any dissent.
Actually, before I came here, I had never even heard of AE911Truth. A lot of what I know about the holes in their arguments comes from Bolo. Crucially, I didn't especially have to trust him (although I think I did assume for the sake of argument that the slide show he was critiquing really was one of Gage's slide shows). I thought some of his points were debatable. Overall, however, I thought it was a good critique.
I can't tell whether you have ever had the experience of working through the points in a 9/11 argument (on any side) to see which ones hold water, and how much. It's different. If you want to learn the truth, it's not good enough to know that you have been lied to.
As for the stuff about "the official story," it's untrue and unhelpful. It was Cheney's "official story" that he had express authorization from Bush to order a shoot-down, but (as far as I know) no one here took Cheney's word for it. The military's "official story" about the NORAD response was riddled with self-serving errors, which John Farmer in due course filleted; that didn't bother anyone here. Clearly we don't know the whole story of what the CIA and FBI were doing before 9/11, and I don't see anyone here insisting that we do.
I do see a lot of us saying that we don't believe for a minute that the towers were brought down with explosives, or cunningly planted non-explosives, or some combination of explosives and non-explosives. That isn't an off-the-cuff opinion; we've been wading through the supposed evidence of controlled demolition for years.
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since anti-truthers don't want to accept the possibility of CD then I expect this is another ...
wildbilln864
Dec 2011
#9
A faked explosion in one video and a poison-the-well inadequate comparison in the other
Bolo Boffin
Dec 2011
#10
It is. When the video came out originally, all the sound in it was mono but the explosion
Bolo Boffin
Mar 2013
#91
Yet we don't see any thermite burning through the outer structure of the building.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2013
#87
That's exactly why the thermite nonsense was invented in the first place...
William Seger
Dec 2011
#40
"you wouldn't want the public to hear the explosives! Duh!" But according to 9/11 Truth
Bolo Boffin
Dec 2011
#44
From Bazant, a debris layer would quickly build up between the top and bottom sections.
Bolo Boffin
Dec 2011
#61
Bolo explained it just fine, and anyway, you're falling for a red herring
William Seger
Dec 2011
#65
And lots of people will try and explain what sort of locomotive the tornado sounded like.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2013
#85
Really? You think you could go back in time, and drop the equivalent mass of a WWII battleship from
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2013
#88