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antitsa

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54. Why a cloth bandana have to be torn or burnt from a 600 mph fiery obliterating plane crash? Really?

Tue Jan 3, 2012, 03:59 PM

Jan 2012

At least they tried to make the "recovered" passports and IDs from the alleged crash look realistic:

PA00101 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ID card recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site

PA00102 Saudi Arabian Youth Hostel Association ID for Ahmed A. A. Al-Nami recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site

PA00103.2 Passport sized photo recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site

PA00105.08 Page 37 and part of U.S. Visa page from Ziad Jarrah's Passport recovered at the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site

PA00108 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia passport for Saeed A A A Al Ghamdi recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site

PA00109 Business card of Assem Jarrah recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site

PA00110 Part of Ahmed A A Al Nami's Florida Driver's License recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site

Now the impeccable Red Bandana!

PA00111 Red bandana recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site

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"United 93" - 2006 [View all] Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 OP

A really well-done movie. zappaman Dec 2011 #1

There are a couple of choices I don't agree with. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #2

Not to mention the 'German guy'.. KDLarsen Dec 2011 #4

Oh, yeah, that, too. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #5

I think that is the one that made me ball my eyes out. Those brave souls. applegrove Dec 2011 #3

LOL, how appropriate. The PA plane crash was Hollywood, wasn't it?! nt antitsa Dec 2011 #6

Love how the plane totally disintegrated, but one of the red bandanas wrapped around their heads... antitsa Dec 2011 #7

Nowhere does it state the bandana was worn... KDLarsen Dec 2011 #8

So that red bandana, as depicted in the movie, didn't come from the plane? nt antitsa Dec 2011 #9

you may want to re-read his post. zappaman Dec 2011 #10

Then what difference if that red bandana was actually being worn or not? antitsa Dec 2011 #11

You don't understand this statement? zappaman Dec 2011 #12

I was talking about bandanas. He seems to be talking about stuff that can float in the wind. nt antitsa Dec 2011 #13

44 people reduced to 8% of bits and pieces. One bandana survives 100% intact. Na, not planted. =P antitsa Dec 2011 #14

"Na, not planted" zappaman Dec 2011 #15

I know =P BeFree Dec 2011 #16

"Yea, it probably was planted." zappaman Dec 2011 #17

Why would they plant a bandana? That makes no sense. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #50

Same reason they introduced this as if they found it at one of the scenes..... antitsa Jan 2012 #52

What? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #53

OK, armchair conspiracy planner. Glad your hindsight is 20/20. nt antitsa Jan 2012 #55

The assertion here is Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #58

No, your view on this is too simplistic. I highlighted the pristine bandana because..... antitsa Jan 2012 #61

Except you have NO evidence it was planted zappaman Jan 2012 #63

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." nt antitsa Jan 2012 #65

I suppose that explains why so many fans of CTs cling despite the absurdities & evidence Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #68

I suppose that explains why so many fans of OSs cling despite the absurdities & evidence antitsa Jan 2012 #72

Just realized bandana wasn't planted, it was staged! antitsa Jan 2012 #18

a few problems with this reasoning OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #21

Guess you're assuming conspirators don't make mistakes! nt antitsa Jan 2012 #23

Yes, that has to be it! zappaman Jan 2012 #24

How many skulls of the 44 passengers were recovered? Four supposedly wrapped in red bandanas. nt antitsa Jan 2012 #25

Making things up certainly does not help your ridiculous argument. zappaman Jan 2012 #26

You misunderstood. Just stating 4 of 44 heads on board supposedly wrapped in bandanas antitsa Jan 2012 #29

questions for you zappaman Jan 2012 #32

"No skulls were found." So no 44 skulls found, but 1 bandana survived PERFECTLY intact. Hmm antitsa Jan 2012 #34

Yes, the evidence shows that nothing was malfunctioning on Flight 93 Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #43

Then you agree zappaman was wrong? Again, why matter where bandana was on plane? antitsa Jan 2012 #45

Wrong about what? zappaman Jan 2012 #49

Why a cloth bandana have to be torn or burnt from a 600 mph fiery obliterating plane crash? Really? antitsa Jan 2012 #54

by your "logic" some of those must be faked zappaman Jan 2012 #64

spooked911 showed why all those IDs are fake...... antitsa Jan 2012 #66

How is that possible? zappaman Jan 2012 #67

Pretty funny you insult me by calling my logic 'child-like' when you missed my point! antitsa Jan 2012 #73

Only in positing that the cockpit broke up early. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #69

Perfectly intact from the worst of the worst kind of plane crashes when nothing else did?! nt antitsa Jan 2012 #74

And we're back at the start.. KDLarsen Jan 2012 #36

And again, what would it matter where to bandana was on the plane that supposedly antitsa Jan 2012 #39

no, I'm just pointing out problems with your reasoning OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #27

"I never asserted that it is impossible that the bandana was planted." Agreed! nt antitsa Jan 2012 #31

Seems a bit 'needy' canetoad Jan 2012 #19

"so-called heroics of the Flt.93 passengers"? Really? Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #20

I know. It's like the Jessica Lynch story. nt antitsa Jan 2012 #22

If I'm going to watch fiction mrarundale Jan 2012 #28

I'm trying to decide which crater looked more ridiculous, the 'real' one, or one in movie! nt antitsa Jan 2012 #30

Do you know what the crater should have looked like? zappaman Jan 2012 #33

You skeptics have brought up a couple of comparison high-speed crashes. NONE antitsa Jan 2012 #35

Obviously you've never seen the movie. The crater's not depicted. n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #37

You're right, I was thinking of that OTHER fictional Flight 93 movie. antitsa Jan 2012 #40

No. zappaman Jan 2012 #41

Of course you don't. nt antitsa Jan 2012 #48

No, I do not agree that the real crater is "cartoon-looking." Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #42

You've seen a plane crash crater like that before? One that also re-filled itself?! antitsa Jan 2012 #46

I didn't see anything "cartoon-like" about that depiction of the crater. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #70

You sidestepped my question...... antitsa Jan 2012 #75

As soon as I answer it, you'll answer mine, yes? n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #76

sure. nt antitsa Jan 2012 #77

Where I've seen a crater like that before, that filled itself in. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #78

You're comparing a SWAMP crash?!?!? ROFLMAO!!!! Stop with the silliness. antitsa Jan 2012 #79

a neat trick, to renege and move the goalposts in so few words OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #80

Only thing I'm guilty of is assuming he'd know how to compare apples & apples. nt antitsa Jan 2012 #82

What do you expect the crater to look like and why? n/t zappaman Jan 2012 #81

First I need to know how 93 supposedly crashed and what happened to it after. antitsa Jan 2012 #83

Differing stories? zappaman Jan 2012 #85

Just post the "official story." antitsa Jan 2012 #86

What? zappaman Jan 2012 #87

Can't read?: "Not going to waste time with one's that aren't relevant." antitsa Jan 2012 #88

I can read fine and know a dodge when I see one. zappaman Jan 2012 #90

"First I need" - sigh. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #92

It's "weak sauce" to ask for the correct OS to know what goal post to shoot at? antitsa Jan 2012 #93

It's weak sauce to promise to answer a question and then stall answering it. n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #95

What good would answering based on the wrong story? antitsa Jan 2012 #97

The question is how would YOU expect the crater to look and why. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #98

No I'm not. AGAIN, what good would if be if I based on a scenario antitsa Jan 2012 #100

You've reneged on your promise. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #102

If you told me what the correct version is and then I refused, THEN you'd be correct. antitsa Jan 2012 #103

If you had had further conditions for your answer, you should have stated them Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #104

If I knew you guys would throw such a hissy fit, I would have. Now... antitsa Jan 2012 #105

Hissy fit? zappaman Jan 2012 #107

Why would I do any such thing? Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #108

I'm willing to discuss too. As I've asked MULTIPLE times now, what is... antitsa Jan 2012 #110

This is really bizarre William Seger Jan 2012 #127

"...to debunk the official story, one needs to know what the official story is, agreed?" OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #128

If this had been an authentic discussion, he would have. greyl Jan 2012 #106

weak sauce indeed zappaman Jan 2012 #99

From a faked jetliner crash? Pretty much as depicted by the 9-11 hoaxers, lol. Their errors ... T S Justly Jan 2012 #89

Yes, it is fuckin unreal zappaman Jan 2012 #91

It didn't crash in Shanksville. nt antitsa Jan 2012 #94

Wait, what? Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #96

still waiting zappaman Jan 2012 #101

Guess it was just another drive-by post to smear DUers, eh? zappaman Jan 2012 #109

Lol, the irony! (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #111

Guess we will just have to keep waiting, eh TS? LOL! zappaman Jan 2012 #112

that's pretty much the opposite of the usual complaint OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #44

Never heard that argument. You making things up? nt antitsa Jan 2012 #47

nope OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #51

Oh thanks! More proof the crash is bogus. Appreciate it! : ) antitsa Jan 2012 #56

remarkable OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #57

That it looks like I'm not closed minded? ; ) nt antitsa Jan 2012 #59

I know how it looks from here. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #60

Oh wow, is that your best comeback?! ROFLMAO!!!! nt antitsa Jan 2012 #62

This group is not about "comebacks." Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #71

What a silly comment. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #38

The Creative Speculation group/forum is the perfect place for this crap. (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #84

Can someone tell me how Flight 93 supposedly crashed? antitsa Jan 2012 #113

anyone? nt antitsa Jan 2012 #114

I don't understand the question OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #115

Your snide remark aside, didn't see in there where is described how it crashed antitsa Jan 2012 #116

anyone? nt antitsa Jan 2012 #117

So far we got how it supposedly was when it touched the ground antitsa Jan 2012 #118

after it "touched" the ground... zappaman Jan 2012 #119

Déjà vu jberryhill Jan 2012 #120

Haven't we just danced this one before? dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #121

I'm starting to wonder if this poster is serious... zappaman Jan 2012 #122

hmm... dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #123

Is this your subthread? jberryhill Jan 2012 #124

" I paid for this microphone!!" dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #125

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