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Logical

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43. I am glad you mentioned testimonial evidence....

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 05:06 PM

Apr 2012

And lawyer will tell you testimonial evidence is the BEST evidence to convict someone but usually the least accurate evidence.

Eyewitness testimony is horribly unreliable. But juries LOVE it.

Even Allen Hynek said most all of UFO events had a easy explanation that had nothing supernatural about them. Stars. Planes, etc.

So your point is not really valid.

If the FDA allowed testimonial evidence that drugs worked then placebos would be on the market to cure many issues.

I just want someone to show me any evidence UFO, ESP, Etc has advanced ANY in the last 40 years. Any movement toward proof.

Please be the one who sends me something. I would love to read it.

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So, what is the BEST evidence for ANY paranormal event? [View all] Logical Mar 2012 OP

One time I thought of a song- digonswine Mar 2012 #1

Wow, well you got me there! I have no explanation! n-t Logical Mar 2012 #2

Right-and it was Carole King-double-whammy digonswine Mar 2012 #3

Interesting! I am researching it now. n-t Logical Mar 2012 #4

It's too late- digonswine Mar 2012 #5

Ah, I really think he'll make it. nt greyl Apr 2012 #9

Nope-Something has died-too bad- digonswine Apr 2012 #10

There is intelligent life in the universe Turbineguy Mar 2012 #6

Great point! n-t Logical Mar 2012 #7

Only heard about the MIT way to take Millions out of Vegas jakeXT Apr 2012 #8

What's that Minchin quote? Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #11

Great one! Logical Apr 2012 #12

I could tell of a lot of instances in my life, RebelOne Apr 2012 #13

Well...... Logical Apr 2012 #14

Well, if there was evidence, it would just be normal jberryhill Apr 2012 #15

Let me take this opportunity to agree with you. eomer Apr 2012 #16

Last Halloween I personally saw several paranormal creatures wandering the streets. Kablooie Apr 2012 #17

I have heard several reports of that! On my list to follow up on! Logical Apr 2012 #18

It's out there. Somewhere. It's out there. MineralMan Apr 2012 #19

EVP's? The Straight Story Apr 2012 #20

Electronic Voice Phenomenon? frogmarch Apr 2012 #21

Interesting! Seriously. Never read much about this until your post. Thanks. Logical Apr 2012 #22

certain phenomena, by their nature, are not repeatable, and "accepted by science" is vague NoMoreWarNow Apr 2012 #23

Wow, here you go..... Logical Apr 2012 #24

check out the UFO vids on youtube NoMoreWarNow Apr 2012 #25

I'll waste my time, but not much of it NJCher Apr 2012 #26

LOL..... Logical Apr 2012 #27

Science has figured out everything! johnnie Apr 2012 #28

I will await your proof!! Logical Apr 2012 #29

logical fallacy NJCher Apr 2012 #30

I would know who this super duper researcher if he really was anything.... Logical Apr 2012 #31

Some people have perfect pitch. JDPriestly May 2012 #56

Good response. Nihil Jun 2012 #72

I cannot remember the source now and I know this thread is quite old, but coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #67

Keeping an open mind AlwaysQuestion May 2012 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author felix_numinous Apr 2012 #32

That is like saying....... Logical Apr 2012 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author felix_numinous Apr 2012 #34

You are honestly clueless about "scientists".... Logical Apr 2012 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author felix_numinous Apr 2012 #36

Well, once again, you have no knowledge of this area..... Logical Apr 2012 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author felix_numinous Apr 2012 #38

No, you just want to believe real "scientists" are close to discovering stuff you want to believe... Logical Apr 2012 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author felix_numinous Apr 2012 #40

I asked for links to these studies you keep mentioning. I got nothing. Your choice not mine. Logical Apr 2012 #41

Evidence comes in different forms. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #42

I am glad you mentioned testimonial evidence.... Logical Apr 2012 #43

Speaking of Allen Hynek: frogmarch Apr 2012 #44

Be careful what you ask for. I won't send any documentary evidence to you. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #45

I would love if a UFO visited earth. Even more than the believers. I would also love it if..... Logical Apr 2012 #46

You never know. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #47

It works both ways; thus the original post deadinsider May 2012 #54

So what is the best evidence that paranormal events don't exist? lunatica May 2012 #48

I believe in polka dotted giant unicorns. I suspect you don't. SwissTony May 2012 #49

When did I say I don't believe in unicorns? lunatica May 2012 #50

Nice piece of avoiding, there. SwissTony May 2012 #52

but your argument was that I don't believe in unicorns lunatica May 2012 #53

"but your argument was that I don't believe in unicorns" SwissTony May 2012 #57

About the same amount of evidence given LanternWaste May 2012 #55

Quantum Entanglements Bonobo May 2012 #58

Seriously, I do not see your point. It is science. Enlighten me. n-t Logical May 2012 #59

The point is... Bonobo May 2012 #60

Well, your argument does not work for me. If I was telling you that.... Logical May 2012 #61

If quantum entanglements occur, it opens the door to the possibility Bonobo May 2012 #62

Absolute proof is mostly a theory of the uneducated cbrer Jun 2012 #63

Spam deleted by Skinner (MIR Team) karlaa Jun 2012 #64

Used ectoplasm on the walls, an extra sheet in the dryer, things that go bump in the night benld74 Jun 2012 #65

Religion cbrer Jun 2012 #66

I have had associations with several New Age cults, met many occultists, ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #68

Wonder why that is? CleanLucre Jun 2012 #69

Huh? zappaman Jun 2012 #70

There is plenty of research CleanLucre Jun 2012 #71

Send me ONE link to research that proves some paranormal stuff. Logical Jun 2012 #75

since you asked so nice CleanLucre Jun 2012 #77

You left out the link. zappaman Jun 2012 #78

. CleanLucre Jun 2012 #79

How was it not nice. Please, send me a link that has some proof of the topics I listed. Please! Logical Jun 2012 #80

you can find it CleanLucre Jun 2012 #81

OK, that means you have nothing. I get this crap all the time from people like you. Logical Jun 2012 #82

no that means CleanLucre Jun 2012 #83

LOL........not worth the 10 seconds to post a link? You are a joke....... Logical Jun 2012 #84

dueling links? CleanLucre Jun 2012 #85

LOL zappaman Jun 2012 #86

not interested CleanLucre Jun 2012 #87

You're certainly interested enough to keep posting zappaman Jun 2012 #88

yes CleanLucre Jun 2012 #89

Some of us have learned that establishment science is limited and it can't comprehend many things.. The Great Haku Jun 2012 #73

Actually science has explained it. zappaman Jun 2012 #74

LOL, that old argument....... Logical Jun 2012 #76

Well, to start Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #90