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arguille

(60 posts)
73. reply to #52
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 02:46 PM
Mar 2013

from Enemy of the Truth: Myths, Forensics, and the Kennedy Assassination by Sherry P. Fiester:

"Contemporary forensic sciences have produced revelations in the emerging applications of new methods and new technologies employed in modern crime scene reconstruction and analysis.

Until recently I have chosen to keep many of the forensic aspects of the case at arms length. I agree with earlier statements to the effect that when experts disagree, we are disadvantaged in terms of lacking essential training and education to know whom to support. Some of it may ultimately rely upon intuition or instinct.

What I have recently come to consider is my own slow realization that many of the most current advancements in forensic research represent new facts which may seem counter-intuitive to those who have no training in the related fields of newly emerging technologies and disciplines. I see all of the various stages of our 50 year journey from Dallas to the present as necessary steps in the long slow story of our originally blind struggle to move from darkness to light. I bear no resentment or animosity towards those pioneers who simply did the best they could, based upon what was available at the time, to accurately assess and interpret “their” facts. No one can blame the researchers and critics of the past who genuinely sought to understand questions which truly could not, at the time, have been answered.

We’re a long way from there now, and we are still moving forward. Research developments in the mechanics of head wound ballistics, utilization of unbelievably high-speed photography, radial and concentric fracture sequencing studies of human skulls, symmetrical and asymmetrical beveling in relation to projectile directionality, related subjects of distinguishing back spatter from forward spatter and, perhaps most extraordinary of all, the news that current forensic research indicates the forward movement of President Kennedy’s head (at Z-frame 313) followed by violent rearward movement is consistent with a single gunshot to the head from the front. Studies conducted by Karger (2008), Radford (2009), and Coupland (2011) prove initial transfer of energy causes the target to swell or move minutely into the force and against the line of fire.

I once tried, I mean, I really tried to discuss some of this with a particularly stubborn person whose opinions of his own outdated, misinformed opinions rendered his cup to be too full to accommodate any new anything. He had everything he needed and was content to sit back and bask in the secure warmth that his certainty afforded him.

I suspect that Progress is a train that does not wait for everybody, especially old fatheads, to climb on board before moving inexorably from the station."

Thank you zappaman Mar 2013 #1
I have searched for these "conspiracy cranks " Frosty1 Mar 2013 #2
The first time I ever visited the 6th Floor Museum.. MicaelS Mar 2013 #3
The first time I visited the 6th floor museum... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #4
Again with the "ear witness" stuff William Seger Mar 2013 #5
Couple of things, Bill... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #6
Looks more like a couple of nothings, Mom William Seger Mar 2013 #7
Talk about wasting you keyboard skills... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #8
"Point me to any one of those videos..." William Seger Mar 2013 #9
Couldn't find one, huh? William Seger Mar 2013 #12
Please don't cry, Bill MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #14
No problem. William Seger Mar 2013 #18
You understand you are kicking my post about a reformed conspiracy theorist? Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #21
Whatever exposes the truth... matters not BB MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #22
Kick! n/t zappaman Mar 2013 #26
There's a PARKING LOT BEHIND THAT FENCE. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #10
Good point William Seger Mar 2013 #11
Not to mention all those people you can see looking back at the TSBD in the films used here Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #13
Enter mcadams... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #16
It's got nothing to do with McAdams William Seger Mar 2013 #17
HA! MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #15
Nah, they'd naturally decide to do a suicide rush on the shooter William Seger Mar 2013 #19
OK, fine! All those folks are bugging up there to catch them a second shooter. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #20
"That would fit the facts, woodunit? MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #23
Maybe the second shooter got beamed up, then? Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #24
Maybe you could continue to give credence to your belief... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #27
Yes, I agree that a second shooter up on the grassy knoll is silly and hilarious Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #30
You would... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #32
Feel free to explain how the second shooter got away any time now. n/t Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #33
That's the argument of the absolute... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #34
If there was a second shooter, he got away. How? Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #35
I'll bet a lot of people got away... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #36
You can't answer because there is no answer that doesn't expose you to ridicule. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #37
I can only answer real questions... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #39
How did the second shooter escape? That's a real question. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #40
Episode Six: "Jim DiEugenio discusses a strange visit..." William Seger Mar 2013 #54
You apparently make an argument... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #56
"All of this testimony strongly suggests..." William Seger Mar 2013 #57
reply to #54 arguille Mar 2013 #74
"represents quite a bit more than the 'nothing' you think it does" William Seger Mar 2013 #76
I'll take that bet. zappaman Mar 2013 #38
I was fortunate to visit it once and it immediately struck me that Oswald was a dumbass... truebrit71 Mar 2013 #25
Heck, the photo supports what you said, if nothing else. MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #28
No, the "real perps" were the dumb asses William Seger Mar 2013 #29
No, actually, they were the smart ones....Oswald DID get blamed for something he was perhaps only... truebrit71 Mar 2013 #42
You're just assuming the consequent. William Seger Mar 2013 #43
Ah, I shouldn't believe my lying eyes... truebrit71 Mar 2013 #46
Well, first, I'd suggest actually USING your eyes William Seger Mar 2013 #52
reply to #52 arguille Mar 2013 #73
Uh.... huh? William Seger Mar 2013 #75
And if he'd tried to shoot then, everyone would have seen him do it. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #31
I'm sorry but that isn't even remotely logical... truebrit71 Mar 2013 #41
Sweet Jesus. At the very least, the Secret Service would have. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #44
"At the very least, the Secret Service would have." zappaman Mar 2013 #45
He ran because he knew he was being set up... truebrit71 Mar 2013 #47
He ran because he had just assassinated the President of the United States... Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #48
...except he had done no such thing.. truebrit71 Mar 2013 #49
...except he had... Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #50
That's difficult to understand because it doesn't make any sense William Seger Mar 2013 #53
According to the OP, Gary Mack "now believes Oswald was the only gunman that day." AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #51
Yes, that is correct. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #55
Re-read what was posted at #51, not your interpretation of the story referred to in the OP. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #58
I'm sorry, but it's you that has the problem with reading comprehension. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #59
No. Your problem is that (a) you came up with a who-gives-a-shit story, (b) you interpreted what AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #60
Thank you for your concern. n/t Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #61
That's what you can expect, AM... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #62
Have we a bet yet? zappaman Mar 2013 #64
What does that tell me? In my experience, liberals are open minded, are willing to consider facts, AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #65
To ignore a mockingbird... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #66
Is this yet one more snide DU-rule-skating insinuation that I am not a liberal and in league with Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #67
+1 zappaman Mar 2013 #68
Gary Mack... MrMickeysMom Mar 2013 #63
"Even if the statement in the OP were true..." William Seger Mar 2013 #69
It is enough that you misrepresent what I've said. You've changed the subject. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #70
Well, that particular comment was really addressed to... William Seger Mar 2013 #71
Oh, by the way, I see now that you are correct William Seger Mar 2013 #72
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