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Creative Speculation

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Like Rove said: We make history..... dougolat Jun 2013 #1
Great video Politicalboi Jun 2013 #2
Yep BobbyBoring Jun 2013 #3
The plane could have been made of AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #4
actually the building's designer said.... wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #6
And one of them died in the collapse. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #7
wrong! wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #9
Bullshit. Both towers were ALREADY under construction when the first prototype 747 took to the sky. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #10
my error..... wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #11
That's right. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #12
The Port Authority White Paper anticipated a 4-engine 707 jetliner Ace Acme Oct 2013 #13
And like most capitalists, they said whatever the hell they wanted to get something built. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #14
John Skilling, Leslie Robertson's boss, said the towers would survive the fires Ace Acme Oct 2013 #15
If you actually read the link/google book I provided, on the pages I specified you would find that AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #16
I probably read City in the Sky years before you did. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #17
Where do you get this bullshit from? AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #18
Robertson says fires were not factored in when he did the studies Ace Acme Oct 2013 #19
The full quote from Skilling, plus more background context is on the page I specified in the book. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #20
Skilling said the buildings were designed to take the fires. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #21
Oh yes, Skilling is going to admit in 1993 that he lied about the buildings when getting the plans AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #23
Mr. Skilling did not reference the 707 study in 1993 Ace Acme Oct 2013 #24
LOL. Hoist by your own petard. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #25
"We looked" is past tense. You're just sinking deeper. nt Ace Acme Oct 2013 #26
Read what I said, again, very carefully. I'll wait. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #27
You're just blowing smoke because you cannot admit when you are wrong. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #28
Ok, I'll spell it out for you. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #29
"We looked" is past tense. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #30
He didn't particpate in the Robertson study. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #31
How do you know? You just make stuff up. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #32
I have accepted the 'evidence' of unsubstantiated allegations. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #33
You don't know the difference between an "allegation" and a qualified "observation" nt Ace Acme Oct 2013 #34
I allow for the possibility of an honest mistake. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #35
It's not an honest mistake when a reporter writes something that's not true Ace Acme Oct 2013 #36
I do, and reporters/journalists make mistakes. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #37
They're not honest mistakes when there's a reckless failure to verify. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #38
It is an extraordinary claim. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #39
It can't be both. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #40
You are attempting to artificially define 'honest mistake'. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #41
Knowing the melting point of steel, he had to know it would be controversial. nt Ace Acme Oct 2013 #42
Why? AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #43
He would know from his access to experts that fires can't produce those temperatures Ace Acme Oct 2013 #44
Consider: dougolat Oct 2013 #22
By the way, in your stunning analysis you neglected to mention AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #8
Follow the money! Frank_Norris_Lives Jun 2013 #5
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