Creative Speculation
In reply to the discussion: The Official Video: ReThink911 September 2013 [View all]William Seger
(11,082 posts)> You photo of dangling steel beams shows not the results of fire insomuch as it shows the results of heat. But maybe you haven't learned the difference. Fire would have consumed the wooden beam. What you show is a piece of charcoal which is a result of anaerobic heat.
The point I actually made was that steel loses considerable strength at temperatures well below its melting point, as the photo demonstrates. It was a response to your claim that a bent column plate must have been the result of temperatures too high to be explained by an ordinary office fire. Your response here is too irrelevant to the issue to even criticize, but I guess you felt you had to say something and irrelevant smoke-blowing was the best you could do.
> You're not looking at burnt paper but carbon ash. Everything we know as paper (cellulose) is gone.
Maybe some arrows will help you locate it:
Or if you think the photo isn't clear enough, perhaps these frames from a BBC video about the "meteorite" will help:
> And, if you think you can sinter silica (the main constituent of sand) the main constituent of concrete or if you can think that one can sinter calcium (the main constituent in gypsum board) at low temperatures then you're missing out on the big money.
Yes, I think I think I can sinter silica and calcium and anything else at low temperatures, because:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintering
The sintering seen in that photo did not need to happen fast enough, or produce a solid strong enough, to have any commercial value. And I see you don't have any defense of your claim that the gun parts melted.
> And, if you think that 1,400 degrees Fahrenheit is to be expected from the smoldering rubble of an office fire, well this is the beginning temperature of a blast furnace - a controlled process. That's simply a laughable notion.
Office fires can reach a temperature of over 1,800 degrees F. Oxygen-starved underground coal fires have been measured at temperatures over 1,900 degrees F. The only people who seem to be amazed at the hot-spot temperatures are "truthers" who desperately search for "anomalies" but the only reason they can offer is hand-waving assertions.
> "Sophistry, thy name is William Seger."
Hypocrisy, thy name is "truth movement." Seems to me there's a simple reason why none of your claims stand up to scrutiny: They are sophistic attempts to rationalize beliefs that are not actually the result of evidence-based reasoning.