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William Seger

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17. Apparently, Gage can be fairly convincing...
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 03:50 AM
Dec 2011

... provided that you only hear his side of the story and you take it at face value without giving it any real thought. I spent a fair amount of time giving you just some of the many reasons why that's a very gullible thing to do, and you just blow it off without even attempting to refute it? Instead, you threw up yet another fallacious argument that amounts to saying that if 1643 gullible people signed his petition, that means we should just ignore the bullshit in Gage's propaganda and accept his conclusions. In the first place, 1643 is an insignificant fraction of the number of "architects and engineers" in the world (even if we don't use Gage's deliberately deceptive definition), and in the second place, a quick check of credentials shows that the vast majority of Gage's "architects and engineers" are manifestly unqualified to claim any expertise in structural mechanics, physics, or controlled demolitions -- most especially including Gage himself. You reject out-of-hand the opinions of people who actually are experts, e.g. all the private-sector scientists and engineers who signed the NIST reports, apparently not because you can actually find any real faults in their credible evidence and sound reasoning but because they don't tell you what you want to hear. Instead, you prefer Gage's "REAL experts" even though they have failed miserably to produce any VALID technical arguments whatsoever.

Well, yeah, you can believe whatever you want to believe, for whatever reason you find convenient. But if your beliefs are not based on credible facts and valid reasoning, and in fact are impervious to sound reasoning, then you really shouldn't expect your opinions to be taken seriously. And that's exactly why the "truth movement" has been stuck in the mud since about 2006.

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9/11 Theories: Expert vs. EXpert [View all] Richard Charnin Dec 2011 OP
I certainly hope you have contributed to this very important cause! zappaman Dec 2011 #1
I have contributed...by posting the video. Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #2
uh zappaman Dec 2011 #3
But you have still not specifically addressed the "bits and pieces..nt Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #4
There was a lot of BS there cpwm17 Dec 2011 #6
The contradictory claims were made by the defenders of the official conspiracy theory. Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #7
Acutally Bolo Boffin has done a nice job in the past... AZCat Dec 2011 #8
The contradictory claims are truther strawmen cpwm17 Dec 2011 #9
No need for me to respond. Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #11
I'm not sure why you think architects and engineers... AZCat Dec 2011 #14
NIST's Twin Towers report is only half a report. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #21
"No need for me to respond." Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #15
You complained when zappaman didn't respond to the alledged evidence in your truther video cpwm17 Dec 2011 #16
Richard Gage is lying to you William Seger Dec 2011 #10
Are 1643 architects and engineers and thousands of others lying also? nt Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #12
You guys just had a White House petition that only hit 111! Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #13
Apparently, Gage can be fairly convincing... William Seger Dec 2011 #17
Once upon a time the entire college of cardinals Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 #19
Thanks. That's a good debunking of goofball NIST "evidence" (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #5
Do you apply the same rigorous standards of inquiry... SidDithers Dec 2011 #18
Thank you for posting this video! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #20
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