Creative Speculation

William Seger

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34. Yes, if even one floor collapsed, total collapse was inevitable

Wed Nov 19, 2014, 01:43 AM

Nov 2014

...and the WTC towers were probably two-floor collapses. Your reply insults this board even more than it insults B&Z.

But speaking of liars and buffoons, look on the bright side: That means that BushCo didn't need to plant magical silent explosives all the way down the building. They only needed those magical suck-bombs that bent the floors and buckled perimeter columns inward, over a period of 20 minutes, to initiate the collapse. And since magical suck-bombs would presumably be silent, that explains why we don't hear anything resembling a controlled demolition in any WTC videos. Mystery solved.

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9/11 Physics: "You Can't Use Common Sense" [View all] wildbilln864 Nov 2014 OP

The mysterious, magical world of Bushonian Science gyroscope Nov 2014 #1

I know! It's fucking hilarious the shit they try to peddle as physics! wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #2

He was using the Beatle's Magical Mystery tour bus gyroscope Nov 2014 #3

Lol don't forget the building that nothing hit (prewired for demolition) newfie11 Nov 2014 #5

"I'm about to give some of these 9/11 truther dumb-asses a little bit of a lesson" William Seger Nov 2014 #4

The guy is being sarcastic gyroscope Nov 2014 #6

Yup, he's trying to be sacastic William Seger Nov 2014 #7

It's a valid comparison. gyroscope Nov 2014 #8

The comparison is ludicrous William Seger Nov 2014 #9

Bad example gyroscope Nov 2014 #10

LOL, what about Gyro's Law? William Seger Nov 2014 #12

Explosives, hydraulics, whatever gyroscope Nov 2014 #14

"symmetrically" lol .... tell me, why would there be an asymmetry .... rewinn Dec 2014 #41

" because walls are not built strong enough to bear the buildings above them at a crazy wrong angle" wildbilln864 Jan 2015 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author rewinn Jan 2015 #51

Exactly: the idea that WTC should topple over in one piece like a 2x4 is silly but .... rewinn Jan 2015 #52

don't know where you get that 2x4 strawman from but... wildbilln864 Jan 2015 #53

Or less than .01 of architects and engineers disagree with him. zappaman Jan 2015 #54

Got proof? OBenario Nov 2015 #59

William, do you also believe..... wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #11

I believe Bazant's conclusion William Seger Nov 2014 #13

Haha Bazant is an idiot gyroscope Nov 2014 #15

Bazant is one of the world's foremost experts in structural mechanics William Seger Nov 2014 #17

"Bazant is one of the world's foremost experts in structural mechanics" OBenario Nov 2015 #57

Bullshit William Seger Nov 2015 #60

thhe crackpot probably wrote that shit himself or... wildbilln864 Nov 2015 #61

then you believe in nonsense and not science! wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #16

Failed demolitions are caused by... William Seger Nov 2014 #18

Bazant has no argument that needs refuting. eomer Nov 2014 #19

Bullshit William Seger Nov 2014 #20

No, as that paper explains repeatedly, calculations of the real life physical process were not done. eomer Nov 2014 #21

I don't think I agree with your assessment. AZCat Nov 2014 #23

You have never understood Bazant's argument William Seger Nov 2014 #24

Or else you have never understood it. eomer Nov 2014 #25

That makes no sense cpwm17 Nov 2014 #26

That was an intentionally extreme hypothetical for only a very narrow purpose. eomer Nov 2014 #29

" But to demonstrate through engineering principles..." William Seger Nov 2014 #37

Bazant didn't "demonstrate" that the ENTIRE top block was falling? William Seger Nov 2014 #27

I showed you what was (or should have been) obvious... eomer Nov 2014 #28

I made no such claim William Seger Nov 2014 #30

Bazant and Zhou's elastic dynamic analysis William Seger Nov 2014 #31

collapse was inevitable!? wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #32

Great response. zappaman Nov 2014 #33

Hard to argue with a baffoon gyroscope Nov 2014 #35

That's exactly how the professional building community feels about the "truthers". AZCat Nov 2014 #36

Ha!!! GGJohn Jan 2015 #44

Yes, if even one floor collapsed, total collapse was inevitable William Seger Nov 2014 #34

your every post is nonsense lately! wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #38

Pro tip: When you accuse someone of "nonsense" ... William Seger Nov 2014 #39

Ha!! Good catch. GGJohn Jan 2015 #45

"Yes, if even one floor collapsed, total collapse was inevitable" wildbilln864 Jan 2015 #47

Wow, what a well thought out, educated response. GGJohn Jan 2015 #43

it's just as educated as "collapse was inevitable"! wildbilln864 Jan 2015 #46

Nope, that proves what happens with bad guesses William Seger Jan 2015 #49

more sophistry! wildbilln864 Jan 2015 #50

Wow, I didn't realize this guy was using Anders Bjorkman as a reference. AZCat Nov 2014 #22

This is what i call "Hillbilly Physics." n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #40

That's a great name for a band! n/t zappaman Jan 2015 #48

and a kick! n/t wildbilln864 Mar 2015 #55

and remember that as the collapses proceeded down the structure wildbilln864 May 2015 #56

Great video! Thanks n/t OBenario Nov 2015 #58