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Gormy Cuss

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14. I'm seeking to have more clarity in the TOS on bigoted speech here.
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 04:08 PM
Dec 2012

The TOS specifically mentions bigotry based on gender yet I've seen far too many examples of people claiming there's no ban on sexism. Based on which word is used, the term may be 1)nearly always sexist, 2) sometimes sexist, or 3) sexist rarely or never.

This isn't a word war. Word usage is only a part of sexist behavior. Using frames that play off stereotypes, particularly crude ones, are IMHO a bigger problem on DU.

As for imposing standards on the broader community that are better accepted within certain groups, that's not the issue. It's clarifying what constitutes the existing standards for the broader community which is why it's a TOS issue. The TOS on bigotry has examples to amplify some of the prohibitions but there's no example for gender bigotry. On top of that, I've been quite surprised to read many DUers claiming that bigotry based on gender is somehow unrelated to sexism. Adding that word as part of an example would help clear up that misconception.

As for insults always being insults, that only holds true when all of the readers are using similar references to assess the insult. For example when a New England grandmother says "Bless his heart" it is absolutely, positively not an insult. When a Southerner uses the phrase, it may be indeed be an insult.

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Proposal to Amend DU TOS Language [View all] Gormy Cuss Dec 2012 OP
I agree... Deep13 Dec 2012 #1
True. Most sites already have that. nt TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #4
Based on some recent Meta discussion, it will make at least a small difference Gormy Cuss Dec 2012 #5
Please do. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2012 #2
Perhaps you need to ask the 3 Male Admins to: "Make Me A Sandwich While You're At It"? TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #3
eliminating bigotries also removes opportunities for organizing and education.... mike_c Dec 2012 #6
Perhaps by restricting misogynistic comments, it forces Introspection. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #7
We can have discourse without being mysoginistic. Deep13 Dec 2012 #9
Absolutely not. Words, alone, devoid of meaning should not be banned. Messages of hatred may be. leveymg Dec 2012 #8
Sure you can. TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #11
The OP does not request banning specific words. Gormy Cuss Dec 2012 #12
So, what you seek to ban are gender-based or referencing insults? leveymg Dec 2012 #13
I'm seeking to have more clarity in the TOS on bigoted speech here. Gormy Cuss Dec 2012 #14
These are expressions I do not like seeing here... Deep13 Dec 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Jan 2022 #24
I wonder how many examples libodem Mar 2013 #15
Either one believes that words have power or one does not. Gormy Cuss May 2013 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Jan 2022 #25
Policing Language and the Necessity of Policing Sexism and Misogyny jaclynisradical May 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Nov 2020 #23
I Think This is a Great Discussion to Have dballance May 2013 #18
Your last paragraph here is key IMHO. Gormy Cuss May 2013 #19
This is good and I hope it happens. openinclusivity Sep 2014 #20
I support this proposal... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2014 #21
It seems they have not lately yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #22
i vote yes. Lunabell Apr 2023 #26
Yes LeoLady8558 May 2024 #27
Welcome to DU, LEoLady! lastlib May 2024 #28
welcome to DU gopiscrap May 2024 #29
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