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iverglas

(38,549 posts)
16. it was intended to be exclusionary
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 06:01 PM
Jan 2012

It was intended to exclude the self-described feminists who had persistently and concertedly attacked women/feminists in this forum, both in this forum and elsewhere, to stifle discussions of the problems associated with pornography / prostitution / the objectification of women, and who continue to do so to this week.

I see you have been a member here for one month. I say this not to discredit you, but to point out that you are not to be expected to have any knowledge of that history, unless someone informs you.

I note that you were posting in the beauty pageant thread, and that when someone posted, in reply to a post of yours:

Maybe if everything in the world wasn't sexism to a few people around here...But you're going to get this shit every time a post talks about anything to do with women and something even REMOTELY sexual. Because we have social conservative puritans here who just love to pounce on it.


you said nothing in reply. You allowed that vicious mischaracterization of long-time members of this group here, Feminists, and of other women at DU, to stand unchallenged. I would not have taken it from other things that you said that you agreed with it. I hope I am right in making that assumption.

Your posts in the subsequent threads in LGBT, however, do not inspire my confidence. I have no idea why you would speculate, for example, about the nature of PMs sent by me about which you knew nothing.

I have little doubt that the previous problems will recur in this group if the group does not make it clear that the posters in question are not welcome, and their kind of discourse is not welcome.
I propose changing the controversial line to the following: justiceischeap Jan 2012 #1
I like your proposal. Lisa D Jan 2012 #2
Yes, I agree. I sometimes forget that men/trans can be feminists. :) nt justiceischeap Jan 2012 #3
thanks justice. and does it feel good to move down, or does that not bother you. seabeyond Jan 2012 #5
I don't care about the placement. justiceischeap Jan 2012 #6
Yes ismnotwasm Jan 2012 #54
yes... with feminist. thank you. lets see what others see. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #4
I like this too. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #7
I also think it should read "feminist perspective," not "woman's perspective." nt BlueIris Jan 2012 #8
I hope that members who didn't comment on the previous thread will comment here. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #9
I think the third bullet should be removed obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #10
seeing how i am continually, consistently and often attacked in this manner, seabeyond Jan 2012 #12
You don't need the bullet for that obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #17
over 7 yrs on du and this move to du3 and more open attack, i would prefer a bullet. seabeyond Jan 2012 #22
You don't understand, it's not like that in a Group obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #26
i dont want anyone banned. and the temptation will be too great, i assure you. people cannot help seabeyond Jan 2012 #27
it was intended to be exclusionary iverglas Jan 2012 #16
Thank you for admitting it was intended to be exclusionary obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #20
I didn't admit a goddamned thing iverglas Jan 2012 #28
Then the group needs to be renamed. LeftyMom Jan 2012 #30
is it really that hard not to call other women names when discussing an issue? nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #31
Not at all, which is why I didn't. LeftyMom Jan 2012 #32
grinnin. you never disappoint. if it is not hard to not call names, then none of us seabeyond Jan 2012 #33
Feel free to put me on ignore. LeftyMom Jan 2012 #34
i dont put people on ignore. and i dont have a problem with your posts. yes, you talked to someone seabeyond Jan 2012 #35
look at all the nice shiny new names! iverglas Jan 2012 #36
You're kind of making my point. LeftyMom Jan 2012 #39
"a lot of other posters" iverglas Jan 2012 #40
My other posts in Feminists must have fallen pray to the old Deleted Subthread. LeftyMom Jan 2012 #42
be nice iverglas Jan 2012 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Jan 2012 #19
Your opinion is as valid as mine obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #21
all of the bullets can be considered exclusionary. that is the purpose of them seabeyond Jan 2012 #23
Yes, very true. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Jan 2012 #29
thank you iverglas Jan 2012 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Jan 2012 #41
I really hate those mischaracterizations of feminists. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #45
I vote for this. (nt) redqueen Jan 2012 #46
what are you suggesting. i am all for the discussion. i am not into having someone tell me i am a seabeyond Jan 2012 #47
I think she's saying no name calling, just exchanging ideas with no minimizing or insults redqueen Jan 2012 #48
i... i did yesterday. and it feels good not being a part seabeyond Jan 2012 #49
Yes, redqueen. That's exactly what I'm saying. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #51
that is fine. adding a bit. the bit where it says... if discussing porn no name calling like seabeyond Jan 2012 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Jan 2012 #53
no, I did not say that iverglas Jan 2012 #37
bunny and i are not on the same side. we often disagree, lol. hey bunny, good to see you in here. seabeyond Jan 2012 #24
I move to keep this one: Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jan 2012 #13
just for completeness, iverglas Jan 2012 #14
check out post 1 and 2 and see what you think. and thanks for this. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #15
frankly, at this point, iverglas Jan 2012 #18
ok. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #25
i like this post for the SoP Scout Jan 2012 #50
Why don't the hosts get picked first, and then work on the SOP later? Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #55
lol lol. that was kinda funny. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #56
do you think VC might be a civil servant? ;) iverglas Jan 2012 #57
I propose this concise SoP: Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #58
I approve. redqueen Jan 2012 #59
raisin hand... is anyone gonna get to call me (ready?), prude, pearl clutcher, frigid, anti sex, seabeyond Jan 2012 #60
No, I expect all the co-hosts will agree that such namecalling is unacceptable. redqueen Jan 2012 #61
Not more than once Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #62
thanks. not that i am not weary, lol seabeyond Jan 2012 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Jan 2012 #63
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