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In reply to the discussion: black stuff in toilet bowl-long [View all]Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 23, 2014, 06:03 PM - Edit history (4)
It's all good advice- if it's not deterioration of the rubber base parts=toilet to tank bolts and washers='s seals, the flapper and or the toilet to seal rubber base, and because of those things you do not want to put bleach in that tank because it will eat away at the rubber/plastic.And the wax seal or the newer type for that matter.That's at floor level under the bowl where the toilet bolts onto the main drain floor flange.But the bleach no doubt removed some of that so you might wait for the gunk to build back up around the bottom of the flapper or simply replace it now. And if the flapper is worn /deterioration, chances are it is dropping water down into the bowl which in turn drops it down into the drain-it's a gravity thing. That would show up in your water bill, and the flush valve turns itself on and off and you may not be aware of it. There is a test you can do with food dye in the tank for that issue.
People have called me about hearing that flush valve running for no reason than it shuts itself off. I tell them throw some food dye or soy sauce or something in the tank what colors the water than go back in and look at it a few hours later .
If theres food dye or soy sauce in the bowl, than it's the flapper no doubt. Toss in an aspirin in there too ,that el hold it till I get over there to look at it ! Some of them actually have tossed in the aspirin too lol. However the finger test as a rule tells the story, although sometimes it just wears thin and doesn't seal properly. Worn part. I tell them it's a good thing they caught it regards to the water bill as it gets worse.In a home with 2/3/or 4 bathrooms the lesser used ones are the ones that can really run up that water bill. A new fill valve along with the flapper plus the box is only about 10 bucks.5 or less for just the flapper. on edit of course !
If it's the toilet to tank seal going bad as was mentioned- the spongy seal ,on the bottom of your tank you might find evidence of suspect black material as well as moisture leaking so fourth at the bottom of the tank-so you inspect that as well by running your finger around the toiler to tank seal and around where the bolts run through. A flash light is handy for getting a look see.
Someone mentioned run your finger around the bottom of the flapper ,see if residue caused by deterioration is on your finger,also the toilet to tank rubber seals/washers.
If it's in the water supply, you can drain the tank ,after shutting off the water ,stick a bowl or something under the tank where the water line connects ,remove the remaining water from the tank and than disconnect the feed line from the tank and the shut off valve. Than remove the valve and inspect it,looking for a build up of black stuff which will be in the form of hard deposits. you will see build up in the pipes too, thats normal.
If it's there, you simply change out the shut off valve-that will help somewhat.
If it's in the water supply, that's a water treatment issue and they won't give up much information about that.
But it will eventually go away -somehow mysteriously seeming.
Sometimes it's just that pesky flapper in the tank-if thats the case ,simply replace it.
If the toilet to tank bolt washer seals are deteriorated too,you might just as well buy the replacement kit ,has everything you need in it to rebuild the inside of the toilet to tank assembly.
About $30.00 or lest for the kit.More like $20.00 or maybe that was once upon a time !
Good luck with that.