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Straw Man

(6,782 posts)
15. A regular old .30-06?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 01:56 PM
Jun 2016

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The round it fires is larger and more destructive than the 5.56/.223 of the AR. It only holds eight rounds, but can be reloaded with stripper clips as quickly as magazines can be changed on an AR.



I don't know what you and others mean by "on American streets." I have never seen anyone carrying on AR on the street. They are in people's homes, on shooting ranges, and in the hunting field. I have seen video of open-carry activist yahoos parading around with them to get attention, but that's rare.
Exactly Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #1
In other words, a handy-dandy modular mass slaughter machine. leveymg Jun 2016 #2
You obviously... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #5
I actually did. The primary argument in favor is that it's a convenient, easy to use killing machine leveymg Jun 2016 #8
I have four and have never killed a living thing. hack89 Jun 2016 #6
I have some old NRA patches from Boy Scout camp, myself. leveymg Jun 2016 #11
I'm sure... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #13
No one in Congress is dumb enough to actually confiscate guns hack89 Jun 2016 #14
So you must only use it for target shooting. In that case you could leave it locked at a range and The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #32
Because we know that guns ranges are so secure hack89 Jun 2016 #54
So all gun stores are safe. Gees, bad argument. At least their would be certified responsibility. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #105
And anyone shot would be... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #106
Where does it stop. When does the safety of the child on the street count on everyone having an AK? The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #108
The firearms that I own... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #109
Just a few points here discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #119
They pay a lot for security and insurance hack89 Jun 2016 #107
At least as safe as military armories. Heh. But you knew that. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #111
If you have to go back to the 1920's, it seems quite safe. Where can we begin? Things have to The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #115
Do I want to be shot? No. And I don't fear that. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #118
I was talking about the plural "you". The threat is not with you but those who are the prey of too The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #123
Pehaps you can point to someone actually saying; "there should be a gun in every hand"? DonP Jun 2016 #124
Is it enforced? I thought it was archaic and ignored as senseless. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #125
The NRA... Human101948 Jun 2016 #126
Oh, you mean those "stupid" armed guards in every Chicago high school ... DonP Jun 2016 #128
Well, to be fair... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #130
Yeah, that "big win" will be in court in a New York Minute DonP Jun 2016 #131
Your biggest problem at ATL is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #136
There are good limits in place. I support UBCs to extend the current prohibitions Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #137
Your hobby has killed many people lewebley3 Jul 2016 #152
You talking about my bourbon collection? nt hack89 Jul 2016 #156
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Not too many blunt objects have been used for mass murders. leveymg Jun 2016 #24
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You said, "About a rifle that is used in fewer killings than blunt objects, by the way -- such good leveymg Jun 2016 #30
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doesn't imply anything gejohnston Jun 2016 #35
Logical and persuasive are more than simply reasonable. leveymg Jun 2016 #56
except that you are assuming, gejohnston Jun 2016 #59
Except, that I am correct. leveymg Jun 2016 #82
your logical fallacy is gejohnston Jun 2016 #86
According to you, I am a liar. That's not an argument, it's attack. leveymg Jun 2016 #101
no, and you don't know what the word liar means gejohnston Jun 2016 #102
Gosh, leveymg, you seem to have a hair-trigger. "Attack?" Hardly. OKC. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #112
Better keep this person away from a gun! ;-) NT pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #139
That argument is so compelling... Jerry442 Jun 2016 #52
As is fertilizer and diesel fuel. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #110
Just like nearly every other gun in the country. krispos42 Jun 2016 #129
People are are dying to for this guys hobby: he should be ashamed of himself lewebley3 Jul 2016 #151
Au contraire, those who call a civil right a hobby should be ashamed of themselves... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #154
The country has a right to regulate guns: that's the countries civil rights according lewebley3 Jul 2016 #158
firearms ownership.. Puha Ekapi Jul 2016 #159
Even if we could cut the number of guns in the nation in HALF........ pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #161
Countries do not have rights, they have powers. People have rights... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #162
Emphasis mine: discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #163
Obviously the framers were talking about 'the people' then... beevul Jul 2016 #164
The people are the goverment: they are not seperate from the goverment lewebley3 Jul 2016 #166
"...of the people, by the people, for the people..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #167
That's one of the stupidest things I've read in this thread... NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #173
I see your point BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #3
Great use of modern marketing jargon The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #4
Do you know what has killed many more? hack89 Jun 2016 #7
Give it some more time. leveymg Jun 2016 #9
So what ? The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #17
Is it safe to assume you regard all guns as "nasty"? nt hack89 Jun 2016 #19
Look I'm not going to waste any more time with you The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #37
I fine with that. nt hack89 Jun 2016 #55
That comment shows how little you know... virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #18
More people killed by rocks ... rickford66 Jun 2016 #77
Uh, how many people would have died in Orlando if the shooter used one of those? nt flamin lib Jun 2016 #103
Getting heavy are they? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #104
Actually, the government keeps count: Fewer than 300 deaths from ALL rifles... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #149
My ex killed feral hogs and javalinas with a regular old 30-06. Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #10
A regular old .30-06? Straw Man Jun 2016 #15
"On American streets" is anti-gun speak for "in private hands". beevul Jun 2016 #61
Your 30-06 was designed to kill humans oneshooter Jun 2016 #16
Like the British Lee Enfield virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #20
But but... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #26
ROFLMAO!!! virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #23
You STOP THAT! RME_SFC Jun 2016 #140
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Isn't a .30-06 for hogs over kill? gejohnston Jun 2016 #31
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Are you under the impression that the .30-06 is not a "people killer" designed for military use? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #39
They are designed to send a projectile down the barrel with great speed and accuracy. Waldorf Jun 2016 #71
In case you haven't figured it out, the rifle in #15 is semi-auto, like the ARs. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #113
Excellent article, and worth a cross post in GD. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #12
And we will continue to own them.. virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #22
How many US citizens have a daily or even occasional need guillaumeb Jun 2016 #28
This is nothing but gun porn to feed the fantasies of anxious white males gejohnston Jun 2016 #33
Indeed so, very sad Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #40
So I am thus a self-hating white male? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #47
What about... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #44
Please delete the words "white males" guillaumeb Jun 2016 #48
Perhaps not so fast chknltl Jun 2016 #80
Carl T Bogus, gejohnston Jun 2016 #87
The former slave states enacted all manner of Jim Crow laws to disarm blacks, post Civil War... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #114
And to add to that: guillaumeb Jun 2016 #120
Michael Bellisiles won the Bancroft Prize for history. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #150
This message was self-deleted by its author DemFromPittsburgh Jun 2016 #29
Wow that took a while Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #41
You're welcome. DemFromPittsburgh Jun 2016 #42
EDP. Sounds like a rap group. Maybe punk rock. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #132
Thank you shireen Jun 2016 #36
Urban Combat give me a f---g break. You mean when those people invade your suburbs doc03 Jun 2016 #43
The select fire Military version was designed for urban combat and CQB use. DonP Jun 2016 #45
And when the term "urban combat" is used, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #49
No, no color can be assumed. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #64
Where the hell or why would a civilian engage in urban combat? We know doc03 Jun 2016 #69
There is always the zombie hord. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #70
For a home invasion an AR-15 would be about my last choice of weapon. You are going to be at very doc03 Jun 2016 #72
Ummmmm....no Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #81
I hope you don't kill one of your family in the next room or your next door neighbor. doc03 Jun 2016 #91
Shotgun vs Semiauto carbine for home defense aside, do not use birdshot for defensive purposes. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #94
To say "it only inflicts a shallow surface wound" is incredibly ignorant. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #153
Did you not notice that I was speaking of birdshot? Just reading posts Jul 2016 #155
I see it differently. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #160
I agree with you on almost everything else tortoise1956 Jun 2016 #99
An AR 15.. Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #122
So, you van always called your local Law Enforcement. oneshooter Jun 2016 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #134
Good point tortoise1956 Jun 2016 #135
Lots of misconceptions there. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #90
Agreed. A semiauto carbine such as an AR-15 is an excellent firearm for home defense. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #133
This is the same nra bull we always hear MFM008 Jun 2016 #46
AR-15... elephant/rhino... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #51
Lol, yes talk about uninformed Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #67
Well.... RME_SFC Jun 2016 #141
One thing tortoise1956 Jun 2016 #143
Ah yes... RME_SFC Jun 2016 #144
Ummmm... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #53
Q: What do call the sticky stuff on the elephant's feet? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #60
Good one Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #68
W. D. m. Bell killed a large number of elephants with the 7 mm Mauser round. Hangingon Jun 2016 #62
...which is considerably... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #63
He was a fantastic shot. oneshooter Jun 2016 #75
He also used... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #84
I once knew had a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser. Hangingon Jun 2016 #93
I have a couple of them. One is a semiautomatic rifle, the AG-42 Ljungman. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #96
He used a .276 Rigby which is the English version of the 6.5 S. oneshooter Jun 2016 #100
The AR-15....21st Century elephant rifle! Just reading posts Jun 2016 #57
I'm not one of these guys who think you should only speak if you're a gun expert... but really. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #58
Uh...What the...? beevul Jun 2016 #65
Its illegal to shoot a deer with an AR-15 here Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #76
Presuming it's chambered for 5.56mm, yes. It would be perfectly legal and appropriate were it Just reading posts Jun 2016 #78
AR's are perfectly legal to hunt with... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #83
Oh, why didn't you say so earlier matt819 Jun 2016 #50
Full of what? Straw Man Jun 2016 #66
Interesting matt819 Jun 2016 #74
Yes. Straw Man Jun 2016 #97
Did you not insinuate that feral hogs RME_SFC Jun 2016 #142
good article beergood Jun 2016 #73
They are fun to shoot. Any other reason is Buzz cook Jun 2016 #79
AR's are down to 550. Used CVA break actions run 190 bucks. ileus Jun 2016 #88
great for mopping up the fear-piss when you see a black kid on a bike go by! MisterP Jun 2016 #85
They make awful mops....not absorbent at all. ileus Jun 2016 #89
Really hoping you just forgot the sarcasm tag. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #92
"MisterP"? Okay. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #117
you do know beergood Jun 2016 #145
You don't say... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #146
Taibo beergood Jun 2016 #147
Yeah. Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #148
did you ever watch Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls? beergood Jul 2016 #157
I bought one years ago, didn't use it tortoise1956 Jun 2016 #98
Sounds like a win all around discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #121
Solid article. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #138
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #165
Cowardly? bolus Jul 2016 #168
You have an odd definition of cowardice. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #169
IMHO one sign of a coward might be... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #170
Yup. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #171
Another example of cowardice........ pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #172
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