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Gun Control & RKBA

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)

25. Hard to find any other reasons than defense of self and others.

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 04:07 PM

Sep 2016

If the attack has risen to the level of being lethal, a lethal defense is always morally, and usually legally, acceptable and expected.

That said, the goal of the defense is not to kill the attacker but to get the attack to stop. While the death of the attacker is an acceptable outcome, it is not the goal.

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acceptable reasons to kill - conclusions [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 OP

If you eat, you are directly or indirectly respnsible for death. JonathanRackham Sep 2016 #1

Bad news??? discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #5

Some people unfortunatly embrace Darwin by doing foolish things. JonathanRackham Sep 2016 #9

my cheeseburger might be somebody's grandmother...... lastlib Sep 2016 #10

That's the beauty of diversity in religion. JonathanRackham Sep 2016 #11

but reinCARNATION is when you come back as a flower......... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #12

In a field full of hungry deer. JonathanRackham Sep 2016 #16

All life is based on the death or exploitation of something else . gordianot Sep 2016 #2

Economy in ruthlessness is civilization n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #6

One quibble: Fair-chase trophy hunting is ecologically sound; in fact beneficial Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #3

I don't mind the taking of trophies discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #7

"If someone is trying to kill you, then you should try to Kill them right back!" mackdaddy Sep 2016 #4

"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #8

Protection of self or family tortoise1956 Sep 2016 #13

Reasonable, understandable, logical discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #17

Thanks tortoise1956 Sep 2016 #36

All life is precious. jmg257 Sep 2016 #14

"The world is a dangerous place to live... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #18

"Never talk casually about taking the life of another human being jmg257 Sep 2016 #19

"Every man dies... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #21

"One man's life or death were but a small price to pay jmg257 Sep 2016 #22

"The happenstance taking of human life in defense of innocence is to mourned but never lamented." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #31

"never insult 7 men, when all you're packing is a six-shooter." jmg257 Sep 2016 #32

"The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get." discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #33

ha - that's awesome! Semper Fi! jmg257 Sep 2016 #34

Well then, here's the full set: discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #35

If the posts posts are to be believed the only acceptable use of deadly force is Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #15

"You know who's going to inherit the Earth?... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #20

kick for the update n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #23

I'm going to nuance your question a little. kudzu22 Sep 2016 #24

re: "Self-defense should never involve deliberate killing." discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #27

Hard to find any other reasons than defense of self and others. ManiacJoe Sep 2016 #25

But that doesn't give you the right to decide to kill someone scscholar Sep 2016 #26

If someone attacks you with a lethal weapon, are you going ask if you understand the situation... Marengo Sep 2016 #29

Absolutely it gives me that right, both morally and legally. ManiacJoe Sep 2016 #30

re: "While the death of the attacker is an acceptable outcome, it is not the goal." discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #28