Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: How is Meatloaf's 'Id Do Anything for Love' like the 2nd Amendment? [View all]jimmy the one
(2,717 posts)sari: The use of the word corollary, defined by Webster as:
Does not support your position that the individual right is derived, i.e. dependent on, the militia
You got the right dictionary, but the wrong year, the wrong era:
Read the definition of corollary from Webster's dictionary 1828:
COROLLARY 1. A conclusion or consequence drawn from premises, or from what is advanced or demonstrated. If it is demonstrated that a triangle which has equal sides, has also equal angles, it follows as a corollary that a triangle which has three equal sides, has its three angles equal.
A corollary is an inference from a preceding proposition.
2. A surplus.
IN'FERENCE, noun A truth or proposition drawn from another which is admitted or supposed to be true; a conclusion. Inferences result from reasoning, as when the mind perceives such a connection between ideas, as that, if certain propositions called premises are true, the conclusions or propositions deduced from them must also be true.
http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/inference
Note keywords in the definitions above of corollary & inference = DRAWN from, DEDUCED;
Derive: 1828: DERIVE 1. To draw from, as in a regular course or channel; 2. To draw or receive, as from a source or origin... 3. To deduce or draw, as from a root, or primitive word http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/derive
Sorry sari, you lose your argument.
Oxford dict: 1A proposition that follows from (and is often appended to) one already proved.
Example sentences 1.1 A direct or natural consequence or result.
the huge increases in unemployment were the corollary of expenditure cuts
In the example above, it's quite synonymous to say: 'the huge increases in unemployment were derived from & due the expenditure cuts'.
As well, you cited the modern Webster's:
The use of the word corollary, defined by {modern 2000's} Webster in 3 ways:
VALID, corroborated by websters 1828: 1: a proposition (see 1proposition 1c) inferred immediately from a proved proposition with little or no additional proof
VALID with websters 1828: 2a : something that naturally follows : result <
love was a stormy passion and jealousy its normal corollary. Ida Treat>
INVALID with websters 1828: b : something that incidentally or naturally accompanies or parallels <A corollary to the problem of the number of vessels to be built was that of the types of vessels to be constructed.
The last definition 'b' (2b) has no corroboration in Webster's 1828 dictionary. It comes from you citing the most recent Webster's dictionary, but readers can see by now the flaw in your reasoning, applying modern definitions to the 1800's.
Also, an example from the modern Webster's you cited again demonstrates synonymity with 'derived':
<increased taxesor expanding deficitsare the inevitable corollary to any new government spending program>
Increased taxes are 'derived' from the new govt spending program - not exact, but quite similar.