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In reply to the discussion: im curious to know [View all]discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,593 posts)8. re: "It is written they that live by the sword shall die by the sword."
What exactly would "live by the sword" mean?
The origin of that is from the story of the last supper and subsequent betrayal and arrest.
The Last Supper:
Matthew 26:
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29 From now on I am not going to drink any wine, until I drink new wine with you in my Fathers kingdom. 30 Then they sang a hymn and went out to the Mount of Olives.
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36 Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane. When they got there, he told them, Sit here while I go over there and pray.
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50 Jesus replied, My friend, why are you here?
The men grabbed Jesus and arrested him.
51 One of Jesus' followers pulled out a sword. He struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his ear.
52 But Jesus told him, Put your sword away. Anyone who lives by fighting will die by fighting.
Matthew 26:
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29 From now on I am not going to drink any wine, until I drink new wine with you in my Fathers kingdom. 30 Then they sang a hymn and went out to the Mount of Olives.
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36 Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane. When they got there, he told them, Sit here while I go over there and pray.
...
50 Jesus replied, My friend, why are you here?
The men grabbed Jesus and arrested him.
51 One of Jesus' followers pulled out a sword. He struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his ear.
52 But Jesus told him, Put your sword away. Anyone who lives by fighting will die by fighting.
The follower who attacked with the sword attempted to resolve a problem with laws of the day and the conspiracy which led to the arrest and conviction of an innocent. Cunning and fabrication led to the death of someone who had not broken a law but was out of favor with those of influence and power.
An account of the same evening before leaving for the garden from Luke 22:
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35 Jesus asked his disciples, When I sent you out without a moneybag or a traveling bag or sandals, did you need anything?
No! they answered.
36 Jesus told them, But now, if you have a moneybag, take it with you. Also take a traveling bag, and if you dont have a sword, sell some of your clothes and buy one.
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35 Jesus asked his disciples, When I sent you out without a moneybag or a traveling bag or sandals, did you need anything?
No! they answered.
36 Jesus told them, But now, if you have a moneybag, take it with you. Also take a traveling bag, and if you dont have a sword, sell some of your clothes and buy one.
Taking the whole of the related events of that evening in the admonitions to both 'sell some of one's clothes if need be to buy a sword' and 'not to live by the sword' it is my conclusion that the ownership and even use of a weapon isn't wrong. However, the unlawful use of the weapon, regardless of the intended end, is wrong.
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re: "It is written they that live by the sword shall die by the sword."
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