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Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: 538 researcher's discovery about guns [View all]american_ideals
(613 posts)37. Gun bans actually work
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11120184/gun-control-study-international-evidence
I'd argue that this misses the point - it cannot take into account long-term effects. But since you want data, I can give you some of that too.
A huge international study of gun control finds strong evidence that it actually works
A 2016 study, published in the academic journal Epidemiologic Reviews, seeks to resolve this problem. It systematically reviewed the evidence from around the world on gun laws and gun violence, looking to see if the best studies come to similar conclusions. It was the first such study to look at the international research in this way.
"Across countries, instead of seeing an increase in the homicide rate, we saw a reduction,"
A 2016 study, published in the academic journal Epidemiologic Reviews, seeks to resolve this problem. It systematically reviewed the evidence from around the world on gun laws and gun violence, looking to see if the best studies come to similar conclusions. It was the first such study to look at the international research in this way.
"Across countries, instead of seeing an increase in the homicide rate, we saw a reduction,"
I'd argue that this misses the point - it cannot take into account long-term effects. But since you want data, I can give you some of that too.
So what do Santaella-Tenorio et al. conclude? First, and most importantly, that gun violence declined after countries pass a raft of gun laws at the same time: "The simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths," the study finds.
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Marshall flat out and unequivocally admits the findings in the article are correct.
Decoy of Fenris
Nov 2017
#6
Bullshit. That claim is merely an article of faith, one easily demonstrated to be false:
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2017
#91
Since this is old, I'll just say: you are helping get Americans killed.
american_ideals
Dec 2017
#93
Rote recitation of talking points saves no Americans from getting killed...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2017
#99
Your arguments are flawed - more guns means more crime and death. It's simple.
american_ideals
Dec 2017
#86
Statistics show you are wrong. Handgun ban. YOU are helping get Americans killed.
american_ideals
Dec 2017
#95
Obviously this will have to wait for a Democratic controlled congress
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Dec 2017
#98
So you have yet to answer a simple question about the policy that you advocate. Why is that?
oneshooter
Dec 2017
#105
"I already cited the arguments, and the data." Where? I don't see anything.
Decoy of Fenris
Nov 2017
#13
You didn't link a Weeds podcast. You linked a pro-RKBA editorial in response to a pro-RKBA editorial
Decoy of Fenris
Nov 2017
#17
But I'll humor you by quoting article in support of a handgun ban anyway.
american_ideals
Nov 2017
#19
You're still missing the forest for the trees: ban handguns to keep kids in cities from getting shot
american_ideals
Nov 2017
#39
Now you're being ridiculous. Handgun bans will help, and Vox is a great source.
american_ideals
Nov 2017
#35
Your schtick is far from new- 'Proof by assertion' and 'Lovejoying'...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2017
#55
Sorry. When toys are recalled, does the government pay for them? (Hint: no).
american_ideals
Nov 2017
#57
Gun prohibitionists do far more typing than voting, so no 'gun recall'
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2017
#58
More "the tide has turned" and "we'll have gun control Real Soon Now!", eh?
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2017
#64
Gun fans: helping kids get killed every day in America. Need a handgun ban.
american_ideals
Nov 2017
#65
Your interlocutor is just wasting their time, period- they do not have the votes to...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2017
#59
Meh-petulant reactions from political fantasists and culture warriors carry no sting
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2017
#62