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In reply to the discussion: 538 researcher's discovery about guns [View all]
Public policy should always be based on facts, evidence, and data. Ideology and dogma have no place in public policy.
I'm all for it. Let's have the CDC do an exhaustive study and come up with actual facts and real solutions. Oh, wait....ideologues have forbidden it altogether.
The center's moratorium on gun violence research stems from an NRA-backed budget amendment passed in 1996. Obama ordered the agency to relaunch gun studies shortly after the Sandy Hook massacre, but his budget requests in 2014 and 2015which would have dedicated $10 million to the issuewere refused by the Republican-controlled House of Representatives. The CDC still regards gun violence as so off-limits that it's not even listed under the Table of Contents section in its recently released index of research priorities. Throughout the 47-page report, the word "firearm" is only used four times: three in reference to youth violence and once in reference to suicide prevention.
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/qbxnpm/the-cdc-just-released-a-gun-violence-study-that-doesnt-study-guns-122
And of course there is this:
When a car kills a person in the US, the details all go into a massive government database. It's called the Fatality Analysis Reporting System, and it records the number of deaths, the type of car, weather conditions, speed, seatbelt use, age, sex, seating position, and drug use of every single occupantover 100 variables in total. Those numbers are the backbone of car safety standards. Since the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration started capturing that data in 1975, car deaths have fallen by 27 percent.
Still, car crashes remain a leading cause of death by injury in the America. In 2013, the most recent year for which data is available, cars killed 33,804 people.
In comparison, firearms killed 33,636 people. Yet no national databases exists for gun deaths.
https://www.wired.com/2015/10/america-still-doesnt-good-data-guns/
Time for responsible gun owners to step up.
I'm all for it. Let's have the CDC do an exhaustive study and come up with actual facts and real solutions. Oh, wait....ideologues have forbidden it altogether.
The center's moratorium on gun violence research stems from an NRA-backed budget amendment passed in 1996. Obama ordered the agency to relaunch gun studies shortly after the Sandy Hook massacre, but his budget requests in 2014 and 2015which would have dedicated $10 million to the issuewere refused by the Republican-controlled House of Representatives. The CDC still regards gun violence as so off-limits that it's not even listed under the Table of Contents section in its recently released index of research priorities. Throughout the 47-page report, the word "firearm" is only used four times: three in reference to youth violence and once in reference to suicide prevention.
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/qbxnpm/the-cdc-just-released-a-gun-violence-study-that-doesnt-study-guns-122
And of course there is this:
When a car kills a person in the US, the details all go into a massive government database. It's called the Fatality Analysis Reporting System, and it records the number of deaths, the type of car, weather conditions, speed, seatbelt use, age, sex, seating position, and drug use of every single occupantover 100 variables in total. Those numbers are the backbone of car safety standards. Since the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration started capturing that data in 1975, car deaths have fallen by 27 percent.
Still, car crashes remain a leading cause of death by injury in the America. In 2013, the most recent year for which data is available, cars killed 33,804 people.
In comparison, firearms killed 33,636 people. Yet no national databases exists for gun deaths.
https://www.wired.com/2015/10/america-still-doesnt-good-data-guns/
Time for responsible gun owners to step up.
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Marshall flat out and unequivocally admits the findings in the article are correct.
Decoy of Fenris
Nov 2017
#6
Bullshit. That claim is merely an article of faith, one easily demonstrated to be false:
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2017
#91
Since this is old, I'll just say: you are helping get Americans killed.
american_ideals
Dec 2017
#93
Rote recitation of talking points saves no Americans from getting killed...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2017
#99
Your arguments are flawed - more guns means more crime and death. It's simple.
american_ideals
Dec 2017
#86
Statistics show you are wrong. Handgun ban. YOU are helping get Americans killed.
american_ideals
Dec 2017
#95
Obviously this will have to wait for a Democratic controlled congress
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Dec 2017
#98
So you have yet to answer a simple question about the policy that you advocate. Why is that?
oneshooter
Dec 2017
#105
"I already cited the arguments, and the data." Where? I don't see anything.
Decoy of Fenris
Nov 2017
#13
You didn't link a Weeds podcast. You linked a pro-RKBA editorial in response to a pro-RKBA editorial
Decoy of Fenris
Nov 2017
#17
But I'll humor you by quoting article in support of a handgun ban anyway.
american_ideals
Nov 2017
#19
You're still missing the forest for the trees: ban handguns to keep kids in cities from getting shot
american_ideals
Nov 2017
#39
Now you're being ridiculous. Handgun bans will help, and Vox is a great source.
american_ideals
Nov 2017
#35
Your schtick is far from new- 'Proof by assertion' and 'Lovejoying'...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2017
#55
Sorry. When toys are recalled, does the government pay for them? (Hint: no).
american_ideals
Nov 2017
#57
Gun prohibitionists do far more typing than voting, so no 'gun recall'
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2017
#58
More "the tide has turned" and "we'll have gun control Real Soon Now!", eh?
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2017
#64
Gun fans: helping kids get killed every day in America. Need a handgun ban.
american_ideals
Nov 2017
#65
Your interlocutor is just wasting their time, period- they do not have the votes to...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2017
#59
Meh-petulant reactions from political fantasists and culture warriors carry no sting
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2017
#62