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In reply to the discussion: Illinois judge rules FOID card 'unconstitutional' [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)62. "Think of the children" is a longtime tactic of crooks, demagogues, and moral panic-mongers
Aside from gun control advocates, the most notorious current example is the transphobic "bathroom safety advocates"
running amok in Republican polities.
There was also, for example, the notorious Charles Keating, who made a great show of being an antipornography
activist- and later went to prison for looting millions as a white-collar criminal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Keating
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_for_Decent_Literature
Citizens for Decent Literature was a pro-censorship advocacy body founded in 1956 in Cincinnati, Ohio by the Roman Catholic anti-pornography campaigner Charles Keating which advocated reading classics, not "smut."
It was later renamed a number of times to various names, the best known of which was Citizens for Decency through Law.
It would grow to 300 chapters and 100,000 members nationwide and become the largest anti-pornography organization in the nation. Over the following 20 years the organization mailed some 40 million letters on behalf of its position and had filed amicus curiae briefs.
Under the name Citizens for Decency through Law, the CDL was still active as of 2002, although it did not have a website.
It was later renamed a number of times to various names, the best known of which was Citizens for Decency through Law.
It would grow to 300 chapters and 100,000 members nationwide and become the largest anti-pornography organization in the nation. Over the following 20 years the organization mailed some 40 million letters on behalf of its position and had filed amicus curiae briefs.
Under the name Citizens for Decency through Law, the CDL was still active as of 2002, although it did not have a website.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children
"Think of the children" (also "What about the children?" is a cliché that evolved into a rhetorical tactic.Literally, it refers to children's rights (as in discussions of child labor).In debate, however, it is a plea for pity that is used as an appeal to emotion, and therefore it becomes a logical fallacy.
Art, Argument, and Advocacy (2002) argued that the appeal substitutes emotion for reason in debate. Ethicist Jack Marshall wrote in 2005 that the phrase's popularity stems from its capacity to stunt rationality, particularly discourse on morals.
Art, Argument, and Advocacy (2002) argued that the appeal substitutes emotion for reason in debate. Ethicist Jack Marshall wrote in 2005 that the phrase's popularity stems from its capacity to stunt rationality, particularly discourse on morals.
BTW, "it's to save children" is an old, dishonorable political schtick
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"In my opinion, FOID is not a strong enough deterrent to possession."
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2021
#8
"Think of the children" is a longtime tactic of crooks, demagogues, and moral panic-mongers
friendly_iconoclast
May 2021
#62
The Illitucky circuit, one of 2 dozen IL circuits, and he's one of a dozen judges in it.
Gidney N Cloyd
Apr 2021
#2
"Good"? Did you mean "Good God!" Or should we just remove ALL common sense statutes that
Atticus
Apr 2021
#4
I don"t think anything I could say could be more revealing of how extreme your views are than
Atticus
Apr 2021
#14
Obviously, there is little to be gained by further back-and-forth with you and your choir but,
Atticus
Apr 2021
#28
Such declaratory. Many emphatic. And not only wrong, but wrong-headed
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2021
#29
Peeved because your self-righteous sermonizing didn't get a receptive audience?
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2021
#35
Sounds to me *very* much to me like the RW attempts to gut Roe v Wade, Obergfell v Hughes, etc
friendly_iconoclast
May 2021
#43
I would hardly call making someone watih months to exercise a constitutional "common sense".
Dial H For Hero
Apr 2021
#15
Yeah, let's just sell AR-15s out of vending machines. Anyone with the cash can buy one NOW! nt
Atticus
Apr 2021
#16
That's essentially the way it has *always* been when it comes to private sales between individuals.
Dial H For Hero
Apr 2021
#17
My agenda is simply supporting present federal gun laws, with one exception.
Dial H For Hero
Apr 2021
#21
"(diminuative of 'James') (species of corvid)" laws were *also* held to be "common sense"...
friendly_iconoclast
May 2021
#44
Extraordinaily unlikely. More plausibly, they may mandate that every state be at least
Dial H For Hero
Apr 2021
#38
Friends in IL that have gotten FOID cards report the system as fair, albeit...
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2021
#10