Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Science Fiction

Showing Original Post only (View all)

Wolf Frankula

(3,671 posts)
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 08:51 PM Dec 2014

Re: Robert Heinlein [View all]

RAH is one of those authors I often disagree with, but enjoy reading. I also met him a few times. He was a personable and very civil man. As for his work, which I have read a good deal of, I have to say it varies widely in quality. He wrote a large number of very good short stories, some very good juvenile novels, four of the best sf novels ever (Glory Road, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Stranger in a Strange Land, and Time Enough for Love and some other good novels.

Unhappily, he also produced one of the worst books ever in Farnham's Freehold. It is boring, preachy, the characters are cliches, badly plotted, and stupid. It is the worst Heinlein novel. To add to that, it is the worst sf novel ever. To continue, it is one of the worst American novels of any type. I place it with Atherton's Black Oxen, Thomas Dixon's Comrades, Marjorie Cooke's Bambi, (not the one about the deer), and Rand's Atlas Shrugged as one of the truly horrible American Novels of all time.

Now for some more opinions. I believe Heinlein would have been a better writer if he had never read a word of Ayn Rand. She infected him with the bacillus prædicans, the preaching bacillus that taints much of his work. Also he was harmed by his sheer popularity. He stopped being just an artist, producing stories meant to amuse and written to buy groceries, and became a MAN WITH A MESSAGE. That is perilous to writer. You stop being a an artist and become a tin-pot messiah.

And there there were his illnesses. This spoiled The Number of the Beast. He starts on one story line, zips to another and then another, leaving them undeveloped. It is hard to believe it's a Heinlein novel. It reads like something written by a new writer, bursting with ideas, but with no ability to develop them.

And to the last, Job: A Comedy of Justice. When I first got this, I couldn't put it down. Once I had read it, I never had the desire to pick it up again. Reason: It's a bad imitation of two works by much better writers, Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven by Mark Twain, and Jurgen by James Branch Cabell. Sorry Bob, You weren't Twain or Cabell.

Wolf

11 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Re: Robert Heinlein [View all] Wolf Frankula Dec 2014 OP
I always found him mysogynistic hollysmom Dec 2014 #1
I think a word even stronger than SheilaT Dec 2014 #2
I loved that stranger in a strange land Sweeney Dec 2014 #3
George Bernard Shaw said of HG Wells Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2014 #4
A Friend of Mine Said This about Starship Troopers Wolf Frankula Dec 2014 #5
I actually loved the movie as a parody sweetloukillbot Dec 2014 #6
Joe Haldeman wrote PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2021 #10
Interesting comment about Harlan Ellison PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2022 #11
I loved Heinlein's YA books as a kid sweetloukillbot Dec 2014 #7
I am re-reading Stranger in a Strange Land now PufPuf23 Jan 2015 #8
Some books stand the test of time better than others Tetrachloride Oct 2021 #9
Latest Discussions»Culture Forums»Science Fiction»Re: Robert Heinlein»Reply #0