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cbayer

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77. Aww…. is it ok if I tell you all the things I am really tired of?

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:29 PM

Dec 2014

It's the "compromise" that is a farce. As I pointed out, when you make a "compromise" that lands you right in the middle of your own camp, that is not a good faith compromise.

Don't be silly.

Now, if you took a position that was truly between the two camps, that would be a compromise. I don't have any reason on earth to anticipate that. It's way too risky.

But I would form an alliance with you to do so. You made the argument that the more hosts there are, the more opportunity there is for a bad decision. I don't agree with that, as I think the more people you have, the more likely you are to refrain from taking an action at all, as the likelihood of someone objecting increases.

However, I will compromise with you and go for 3 hosts. Deal?

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Host Poll [View all] Renew Deal Dec 2014 OP

I pass because I don't really understand the purpose of hosts. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #1

No one does, which is why all but Renew Deal should be removed. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #2

That's illogical. If no one understands, there would be no host. rug Dec 2014 #35

I've probably MILDLY disagreed with this sentiment Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #221

Depends on the group. Renew Deal Dec 2014 #4

Hmm. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #16

Has anyone asked you if you want to be solely responsible okasha Dec 2014 #185

Honestly Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #222

As I recall, the last time a thread went totally out of control okasha Dec 2014 #224

That may be true Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #234

I think a run off until there is a majority opinion would be a good idea. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #3

I support TexasTowlie! I think he would make a fine host. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #5

He/she is great in the Texas group LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #11

I understand your view point but i never really found ut a problem to wait hrmjustin Dec 2014 #13

4 sure LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #15

I think 5 people for such a contentious group is needed. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #18

Aside from the recent host malfunction when was the last time a post was locked here? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #23

I think Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #223

I think "preventing bias" is a good thing. okasha Dec 2014 #184

This really doesn't have anything to do with hosting at this point. cbayer Dec 2014 #188

That's why posting this in Interfaith is just as bad. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #194

No it doesn't do that at all. cbayer Dec 2014 #198

As I've discussed, I have compromised Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #201

And, btw, "let them have it"? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #209

I have a question for you. cbayer Dec 2014 #6

Sorry, just saw your reply in the other thread. cbayer Dec 2014 #7

We stopped that practice when the 5 post suspensions started Renew Deal Dec 2014 #133

Did you make a decision that blocking was off the table? cbayer Dec 2014 #136

At the time yes. Renew Deal Dec 2014 #138

I'm not sure I agree with that, but I have no data to show it would be otherwise. cbayer Dec 2014 #140

How did we ever survive? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #155

How did we ever survive what? cbayer Dec 2014 #158

You said you don't want to live in a system where hosts don't block. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #160

I was mistaken, but I still think they have the option and I would expect them to use it. cbayer Dec 2014 #165

And in the Lord of the Flies there was a small group working for the common good. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #167

You continue to completely miss my point about the current hosts. cbayer Dec 2014 #173

Or you don't get it. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #177

And being shitheads towards each other is a particular problem in this group. cbayer Dec 2014 #178

Well, again, I would argue that using LotF for that Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #179

Keep teaching the novel. I could not care less. cbayer Dec 2014 #181

literature is like the bible, you can just toss out the bits you don't like, Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #199

That's pretty much all we covered Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #207

This is why a new host is needed. rug Dec 2014 #211

I'll do whatever the group wants Renew Deal Dec 2014 #132

I am confident that you could handle it as well. cbayer Dec 2014 #135

One of my concerns okasha Dec 2014 #189

It doesn't make any difference. cbayer Dec 2014 #190

"If people are willing to go out and recruit non-participants to vote in this meaningless poll" trotsky Dec 2014 #193

Well there was that thread in Interfaith. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #195

Oh right, it's OK when her team does it. trotsky Dec 2014 #196

And when specific people do it Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #197

Likely true. okasha Dec 2014 #208

I'll tell ya what....I'll be the sole host. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2014 #8

Hey hey hey now. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #236

The operative word there is "was". A HERETIC I AM Dec 2014 #238

So, in other words... NeoGreen Dec 2014 #244

You talk like he doesn't do that now. n/t Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #250

DAMMIT, MONGER! A HERETIC I AM Dec 2014 #255

Well, as long as the towel doesn't read... NeoGreen Dec 2014 #256

Don't we need consensus to change the rules? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #9

If this poll says we should just have one or none Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #10

No. Consensus to me would be both sides agreeing the rules need to be changed. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #12

So it's never going to change, then? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #14

This, imo, is a partisan battle in which two sides are likely to be highly invested cbayer Dec 2014 #19

"The bat sign has obviously gone up" Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #24

In a non-safe haven group, there is no need to block users. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #25

I disagree. Members have been blocked from this group previously. cbayer Dec 2014 #29

And I'm fine with one host where I would rather have none. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #32

Scott was the last one blocked. for one month. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #33

When was that? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #39

No before. After the 90 day rule came in we decided to just let the software work its will. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #47

That's not a compromise at all, unless you are compromising with your cbayer Dec 2014 #34

Of course it's a compromise. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #41

It's a compromise with those who want one host, not with those that want to cbayer Dec 2014 #45

Last block was in 2013 as per Justin above. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #53

I'm not sure, but I will concede that you are likely correct. cbayer Dec 2014 #55

So we keep RD Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #57

You are so funny. You are again acting like you are making a big compromise. cbayer Dec 2014 #60

I'm already compromising. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #64

I reject your "compromise" as a farce. cbayer Dec 2014 #65

I reject your "compromise" as you on a power trip. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #67

Additionally, though you dismiss it as the bat signal Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #71

I'm not referring to atheists at all, but you knew that. cbayer Dec 2014 #73

So what did you mean with the bat signal going up? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #75

I love it when you are coy! cbayer Dec 2014 #79

Batman is also male, white and economically privileged. rug Dec 2014 #96

And he has a cave! cbayer Dec 2014 #99

But he has only one sidekick. rug Dec 2014 #104

Well, that is just showing how little you know about Batman. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #110

Who did he have besides Robin? rug Dec 2014 #112

I guess it depends on how you define sidekick. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #118

What's the consensus definition? rug Dec 2014 #121

Well played Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #125

Depends which Batgirl Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #233

And yet he fights for the poor and downtrodden regardless of race or gender. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #100

I'll give you comic books and you give me the New Testament. rug Dec 2014 #102

I'll give you New Testament only on being currently involved with it. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #105

Here's one: Without googling, what was The Atom's superpower? rug Dec 2014 #108

That's a good question to decide understanding. Kudos Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #113

He is my all-time favorite superhero. rug Dec 2014 #116

He may make a comeback? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #120

I hope. rug Dec 2014 #123

He's turned up on the small screen now Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #232

I'll have to look that up. rug Dec 2014 #237

NP, dude Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #408

What is the difference? tradewinds Dec 2014 #351

The intelligence of the reader. rug Dec 2014 #355

You're right. tradewinds Dec 2014 #377

But would not grasp the elements of grammar and spelling. rug Dec 2014 #395

Of course, the truly intelligent of us know there is only so much value to tradewinds Dec 2014 #396

The truly intelligent would know when to use the first person plural. rug Dec 2014 #397

But does he discriminate based on someone being a religious believer? Or a supporter of religion? cbayer Dec 2014 #109

In Groups that are not safe havens, chronic disruption occurs. rug Dec 2014 #37

So when is the last time that has happened? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #42

The one to whom it last happened is currently vacationing on his transparency page. rug Dec 2014 #44

Last block was in 2013 Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #54

There's ten days left. rug Dec 2014 #59

And there are some people only a hide or two from a vacation. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #63

Oh there's a big difference between your weaselly worded alerts and what he does day in and day out. rug Dec 2014 #81

I've alerted on only 1 of your hides. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #84

And how many of your alerts have failed? rug Dec 2014 #86

You're right, rug, you have 4 hides not because of what you have done Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #88

So, do you have the data on how many failed alerts were sent? rug Dec 2014 #91

On you? None. I'm 1 for 1 with you. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #98

Anectdotally, I've received jury results on eleven failed alerts to every hide. rug Dec 2014 #106

Yeah I got several alerts I was alerted on throughout this years as well. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #114

Wait, the election's not over yet. rug Dec 2014 #117

Are you to be the arbiter of who is/is not a "chronic disruptor"? tradewinds Dec 2014 #264

That is the hosts job. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #266

Yes. rug Dec 2014 #276

So are you going to tut-tut Justin for sending up the bat signal Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #163

I'm not aware of that having happened, but interfaith is an open group. cbayer Dec 2014 #168

So, basically, it's OK when your friends do it. Got it. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #169

I will absolutely scoff at that. cbayer Dec 2014 #171

Can you explain what you mean here? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #170

Cbayer said it was crappy because she thought atheists were rallying the troops. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #175

Oh ok. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #176

I bet they need klieg lights for that. rug Dec 2014 #215

Like you didn't know. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #239

Your opinion is noted. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #241

"As a host your comment is under review. i will let you know." AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #242

That is not an attack. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #243

At the very least, it's a threat. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #245

Oh please! a threat? stop being dramatic. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #247

Yes, because your use of host powers is eminently predictable. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #249

Your opinion is noted. i disagree. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #251

It's cool. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #253

I will. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #254

I said no such thing. Are you ever going to stop distorting what I say? cbayer Dec 2014 #180

Well, I got a hypocrisy point, but not for what you think. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #182

I would love for things to be less partisan, but they are partisan and I am definitely cbayer Dec 2014 #183

I don't know. Honestly. I don't know what changes it. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #206

So are you saying I deserve the treatment I receive here from some people? cbayer Dec 2014 #301

You asked what I could do. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #306

So now you're telling someone else I'm an ass? rug Dec 2014 #307

I said I was an ass, too! Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #308

You didn't answer my question, but I didn't really expect you to. cbayer Dec 2014 #310

"Go sit in judgement of someone else." Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #311

"What would you have me do?" - well that is an interesting question. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #280

Well i don't make that decision but yes I think we need agreement on both sides to change the hrmjustin Dec 2014 #20

I don't. Because that will never happen. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #26

I am not going to start a revolt if my side loses. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #27

I didn't think you would, my man. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #28

Lol i guess an elf and a dwarf can get along. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #31

"none of the above" is not changing the rules. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #17

Vote in the poll Renew Deal Dec 2014 #21

I did. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #22

When you get a chance, would you please answer my question above. cbayer Dec 2014 #30

Sorry. Which one? Renew Deal Dec 2014 #40

My question above about how you feel about dealing with blocking members cbayer Dec 2014 #48

Hmmm. okasha Dec 2014 #205

Just seeking feedback at this point. Renew Deal Dec 2014 #403

No. DU consensus means no strong objection. rug Dec 2014 #36

So where is it indicated that we need that definition of consensus to make a change? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #43

That is the definition of consensus. What you're now saying is change without consensus. rug Dec 2014 #46

That alone says legions about what this is all about. cbayer Dec 2014 #49

Where in the rules does it say we need consensus to change hosting? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #56

You think we can come to general agreement? What do you imagine that agreement to be? cbayer Dec 2014 #61

Where in the rules does it say it's done by polls? rug Dec 2014 #62

Then that is a MIRT definition. Not how the word is actually defined. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #66

Oh no, the foot-stomping tantrum was just days ago. rug Dec 2014 #82

There was no tantrum that I saw. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #85

Of course you didn't. It's what you consider discussion. rug Dec 2014 #87

Oh come on. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #90

He didn't, now did he? He doesn't disrupt. Especially out of manufactured pique. rug Dec 2014 #93

Do you approve of pinto's lock of that thread? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #103

No. rug Dec 2014 #111

you can't even bring yourself to answer a simple question unambiguously. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #142

Ambiguity is the stuff of life, Warren. rug Dec 2014 #151

Why should a host be able to overextend their powers? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #157

carefully avoiding an explicit personal attack is important at this point. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #143

Ah, is that why you modified your alleged ignore list? rug Dec 2014 #152

I'd like to ask that I not be used any further, specifically, in this manner. Please stop. pinto Dec 2014 #227

Couple things. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #235

Do tell, monger. What is telling about it? rug Dec 2014 #286

I'm sorry. I was talking to pinto there. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #289

I'm sorry. I thought you were talking to pinto about me there. rug Dec 2014 #293

No more admonishments of people interrupting, then. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #295

There won't be any admonitions if there's no more trash talking of other DU members. rug Dec 2014 #299

What does your support of his action-- Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #302

Ah, you just can't help making personal attacks. rug Dec 2014 #303

Yes there was a tantrum. one of our members decided he needed to do three threads over the issue. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #92

Really? I think that pretty much defines a tantrum. cbayer Dec 2014 #94

I cleared out my ignore list for the fun. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #97

I have a thing about abuse of authority. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #141

Yesterday i got truly upset for the first time here ever. i needed to take a break. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #145

The rules have a thing about abuse. rug Dec 2014 #153

Rules can't actually "have a thing" but please elaborate. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #192

They can and they do. rug Dec 2014 #200

This is the bottom line. This poll is nothing more than advice. cbayer Dec 2014 #68

Yes I expect a meltdown by a few but i think most will move on. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #70

I'm really tired already of you calling my plan a farce. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #72

Aww…. is it ok if I tell you all the things I am really tired of? cbayer Dec 2014 #77

I don't believe this is a compromise either. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #80

2.5 hosts is the true compromise! Rainforestgoddess Dec 2014 #373

Love it. We currently have 4, so we could keep RD and cut the other three into halfs and cbayer Dec 2014 #374

Glad I'm not a host! Rainforestgoddess Dec 2014 #375

I'm glad neither of us are. I personally like being in one piece. cbayer Dec 2014 #376

If you're happy you're not a host Heddi Dec 2014 #394

Didn't see your post before posting #205. okasha Dec 2014 #210

Yes. i think to change the rules we shoukd have consensus. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #50

Define "consensus" tradewinds Dec 2014 #269

Very simple! In this room consensus is both the majority of believers and non-believers agreeing on hrmjustin Dec 2014 #270

No, that is just majority rule. tradewinds Dec 2014 #275

The fact is the hosts have the final say what really happens here. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #278

So, consensus is out of the question, then? tradewinds Dec 2014 #281

Hosting is not all that hard. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #283

"its a democracy but the hosts have the final say"????? tradewinds Dec 2014 #285

This is how the site is set up. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #290

Not a democracy. tradewinds Dec 2014 #291

Well it is in some respects but not in others. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #292

So, then it is not. tradewinds Dec 2014 #294

Well in this instance i think the hosts will go with a majority vote. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #296

Magic 8 ball says: No. tradewinds Dec 2014 #297

Why? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #298

So complain to Skinner. okasha Dec 2014 #328

This site never has been and has never intended to be a democracy. cbayer Dec 2014 #305

Only some "word salad " posts here. tradewinds Dec 2014 #314

Uh, oh. Did you not know it is an open board and anyone can respond to anything? cbayer Dec 2014 #315

Sure. Respond away. tradewinds Dec 2014 #317

Cbayer is one of our best posters in this room. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #318

This is not Mark Charles, by the way. Even Mark Charles does it better. cbayer Dec 2014 #320

Agreed that he is not Mark. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #321

No, it isn't. okasha Dec 2014 #335

Idiolect - I like that! cbayer Dec 2014 #337

That would be your opinion. tradewinds Dec 2014 #322

And you based this on being here for a few days and at one of this rooms low moments? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #323

This is not the only rodeo. tradewinds Dec 2014 #325

Is that an insult at me? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #326

Of course not. Why on earth would you think that? tradewinds Dec 2014 #330

Well in general I think people in this room have a wealth of experience in real life. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #332

In general? tradewinds Dec 2014 #334

You haven't been here long enough to know that. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #339

Like I said, this is not the only rodeo. tradewinds Dec 2014 #342

You picked the most contentious room to post in. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #343

Discussions involving fantasy often are. tradewinds Dec 2014 #344

Lol well we disagree on religion. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #345

.. tradewinds Dec 2014 #352

Please define "strong objection" tradewinds Dec 2014 #268

Google the site. rug Dec 2014 #274

OK, but seems silly. tradewinds Dec 2014 #277

Maybe you should buy a star. rug Dec 2014 #282

And a clue. okasha Dec 2014 #340

I like Texas Towelie shenmue Dec 2014 #38

Me too! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #74

I'll vote for kittehs every time! okasha Dec 2014 #219

I would like to know if there has ever been a situation where the current hosting arrangement... trotsky Dec 2014 #51

Who abused there power? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #52

seriously? I don't think that is an honest response. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #69

I don't think this one is. rug Dec 2014 #95

ok - what was dishonest about my response? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #144

I must check a calendar. Lent seemed unusually long this time. rug Dec 2014 #150

So you have nothing. What a surprise. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #172

I see you took him off ignore. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #174

Not for the first time, I'm sure, lol. rug Dec 2014 #203

He missed you. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #204

Oh I have plenty, Warren rug Dec 2014 #202

Selective reminiscences of the past are not confined to "Known and Unknown: A Memoir". rug Dec 2014 #58

The only solution I don't like is no hosts Renew Deal Dec 2014 #404

I voted. pinto Dec 2014 #76

. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #78

I think AC will be a worthy successor. rug Dec 2014 #101

I appreciate your vote of confidence. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #387

Should current hosts be voting in this poll? trotsky Dec 2014 #83

They hsve the right. They participate here. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #89

This should be called the free floating hostility thread in honor of George Carlin. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #107

Or the Festivus Airing of Grievances. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #126

Even better. I am keeping my ignore list clear just for fun. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #127

lol Renew Deal Dec 2014 #405

I suggest choosing a believer in a non-Christian religion... LeftishBrit Dec 2014 #115

I think that is a great idea. cbayer Dec 2014 #122

Excellent suggestion unrepentant progress Dec 2014 #226

We've never questioned Renew Deal Dec 2014 #406

This message was self-deleted by its author Lordquinton Dec 2014 #119

Who resigned over abuse of power? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #124

Well, Pinto, and I forget who he replaced Lordquinton Dec 2014 #129

Struggle4progress left because his work hours didn't let him post here as much as he used to. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #131

No, I agree with him on that Lordquinton Dec 2014 #186

Lmfao! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #187

Oh, yup. okasha Dec 2014 #213

Are you fine with what pinto did? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #419

That is correct. trotsky Dec 2014 #128

Atheists get the blame Lordquinton Dec 2014 #130

Nobody here said it was only the atbeists here. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #139

Ho resigned to get someone to try and self delete? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #134

"I love it. God help me, I do love it so" A HERETIC I AM Dec 2014 #137

! rug Dec 2014 #154

I voted. longship Dec 2014 #146

Well said! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #147

Good, you shouldn't comment further. trotsky Dec 2014 #148

He could comment all he wants. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author longship Dec 2014 #156

I rest my case. nt longship Dec 2014 #159

Excellent. trotsky Dec 2014 #161

Oh dear. QED. nt longship Dec 2014 #162

So far, you've posted three more times (one self-deleted) after saying you had no further comment. trotsky Dec 2014 #164

I suggest you leave him alone. He doesn't answer to you. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #166

Stand down! rug Dec 2014 #217

The last time we had this discussion: Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #191

If I thought that this would help, I would support it. longship Dec 2014 #212

They are never going to trash this group. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #214

Well, you have a point there, re GD. longship Dec 2014 #216

I have no problem peacefully discussing this LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #228

LGBT, which is a paragon of decorum compared to Religion, okasha Dec 2014 #229

Both of those groups have significant differences from Religion though LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #231

I'll go with the bunnies. okasha Dec 2014 #348

Thank you for your input. longship Dec 2014 #230

"Let's cut the meta and get back to discussing religion." rug Dec 2014 #218

Imagine that! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #220

Words were exchanged! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #225

Would it be possible... NeoGreen Dec 2014 #240

I would also like to see an option for 3 hosts. cbayer Dec 2014 #246

How is 'let juries handle it' partisan? AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #252

Do you have an indication that those voting for just RD Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #257

Heavens no. You think that coalition is going to break ranks in order to reach a compromise. cbayer Dec 2014 #259

The option I really want isn't even up there, either. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #260

So, it the poll is changed to show "no hosts" as an option, are you going to change your vote? cbayer Dec 2014 #265

Wait a minute. I thought I was TPTB. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #272

Oh, no, you are clearly not TPTB. cbayer Dec 2014 #284

Oooh, 3+RD instead of 4+RD, what a fucking compromise. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #262

2+RD=3. okasha Dec 2014 #357

Still not half of the former 5. (Counting RD) AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #358

Whom do you propose to split down the middle, Solly? okasha Dec 2014 #364

The hosts aren't necessary. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #367

Same reason SCOTUS has 9. okasha Dec 2014 #369

Try looking up the history of the court. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #370

And an odd number was eventually settled on. okasha Dec 2014 #371

settles on FOR NOW. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #372

"I don't condemn" - well sure you did and do. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #263

And of those voting for Texas Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #267

I want you to consider something here. cbayer Dec 2014 #273

What a crock of shit. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #279

What exactly are they being protected from? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #287

There have been a couple LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #300

Ok I take it back, every now and then an actual off topic post goes up. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #329

I think they *want* hosts to wield the banhammer. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #309

To ban those who follow the SoP? LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #312

Not me. This is not a safe-haven and at this point I expect what I see in this room. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #313

So what do you think you need a committee of hosts for? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #331

With more hosts you get different perspectives. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #333

"Different" AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #360

Yes. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #363

Because I'm a Thor geek, I get to post this Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #316

... LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #319

I approve of both the Thor image and the Loki response Rainforestgoddess Dec 2014 #381

Im happy to be of of service! LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #393

Too pretty, that one Rainforestgoddess Dec 2014 #409

To some extent, yes, there is a split. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #288

To some extent there is a split? Some extent? cbayer Dec 2014 #304

But, you can't prove the atheist orginization doesn't exist! Lordquinton Dec 2014 #338

I'd like to see the 3-host option, too. okasha Dec 2014 #349

It is the compromise position, despite other things being cbayer Dec 2014 #350

Option four has that effect. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #248

I read it as retaining RD... NeoGreen Dec 2014 #258

I could be wrong, but I think someone has to 'own' the group. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #261

See Skinners reply from last time. No hosts is fine. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #271

That's a good point Renew Deal Dec 2014 #407

Yes, I read options #3 and #4 as the same... NeoGreen Dec 2014 #410

Ok, I stand corrected... NeoGreen Dec 2014 #413

I'm glad to have you hosting and I support Texas Towlie as a great new nonpartisan host. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #324

Solid. I was a mod. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #327

I was a mod but I wouldn't recommend myself to host this particular group. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #336

While it is true that what is popular is not always wise LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #341

I'd like to kick this thread for more votes with this humorous little Tosh.0 clip. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #346

I'd like to call the question, so to speak. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #347

It's not an up and down vote, but I second a call to close the debate. cbayer Dec 2014 #353

So when those of us that wanted no hosts last time were in the minority Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #354

Do you ever stop? cbayer Dec 2014 #356

He can't. okasha Dec 2014 #361

He is indeed an aristocrat of the soul. cbayer Dec 2014 #365

Nope. I'm like the damn energizer bunny. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #398

A person of superior intelligence once wrote: Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #359

Lol i wonder if we will get to 500 posts in this one. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #362

I hope not. I'm on a desk 'pute now, okasha Dec 2014 #366

I hope they decide tonight. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #368

Well LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #378

lol I love it. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #379

We would probably be the first people blocked here since the jury change though LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #380

I think people would find the humor in it. lol. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #382

I'd think that through, again. tradewinds Dec 2014 #383

All the more reason to do it. You want in? LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #385

Sure tradewinds Dec 2014 #390

,why tradewinds Dec 2014 #391

not. tradewinds Dec 2014 #392

What song do you want to do? LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #384

lol. maybe a different day. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #386

Another day then LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #388

Lol. we shall see. i think on second thought you might be right. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #389

This thread is getting a lot like a Rick Roll. n/t Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #399

I just wanted post 400 Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #400

I got to 50,000 today. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #401

You realize that is almost 50 per day for every day you have been a member? A HERETIC I AM Dec 2014 #429

A lot of it was my NY room posts. I posted a lot of updates in there. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #430

I don't know what "NUY" is, but neither here nor there. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2014 #431

Typo sorry. NY room posts. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #432

I give up what is a "NY room post"? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #440

You forgot the s. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #441

Oh, by "room" you mean "group" or "forum". Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #442

I have escaped from time to time. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #443

Seems like people have had enough of this. Renew Deal Dec 2014 #402

.?. haikugal Dec 2014 #411

it is the Only renew deal option (56%) vrs everything else put together (44%) (nt) LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #412

That is an odd characterization of the results. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #415

Yeah, a vote for me should be in no way translated as opposite the 'no hosts' option. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #424

RD, I object to the way you have stated the results of this poll. trotsky Dec 2014 #414

Goood point Renew Deal Dec 2014 #422

Maybe you should ask him to resign. rug Dec 2014 #426

If you are confused by the results you could hold a run-off between the top two. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #416

And a run-off is generally only used when no option got a majority vote. trotsky Dec 2014 #417

To interpret this as anything other than a clear indication of just you as host Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #420

I understand why you think that Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #433

I believe he said up above he would. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #435

But it's totally a thankless job Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #436

In which case, we can just do as Skinner himself suggested, and have no hosts. trotsky Dec 2014 #437

Absolutely Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #438

Good luck with the decision. n/t. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #421

You seriously have to "figure out what that means"? Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #423

Good luck Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #434

Why have a poll and then ignore the resuts of that poll and try to fnd ways mr blur Dec 2014 #418

No one has done anything like that. Renew Deal Dec 2014 #444

I vote for no hosts at all. Metatron Dec 2014 #425

Whatever you do, and the rules are clear it is entirely the hosts' decision,- rug Dec 2014 #427

Agreed! It is the hosts decision. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #428

Sorry I'm late Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #439